What did i experience?

[Lusion]

Hey everyone im new here, thought it was time to join after a while of lurking on here, and a really profound experience that i had last night, Firstly, il tell you a bit about myself Im 17 and i live in the uk, i have had about 9 sucessful lucid dreams since i started studying the subject about 6 months ago, all of them have been reality check induced whilst i was in the dream, and one of them where i was given pills by a man that everyone was telling me to run away from, that made me lucid. I also have a lot of experience with dmt, and various entheogens that gave me the insight to what was possible with my brain and re-aranged my prioritys as a being. Now, the other night i had what for me was a massive milestone in my mission, basicly this is how it happend. I was really really tired, and after reading about this VILD technique i thought i might as well try it as i was fallling asleep and the results were amazing, i relaxed, focused on repeatadivly visualizing walking out of my room, and finding my mate who stayed over who then asks me if im dreaming, with all the senses incorporated etc etc. For the first time ever i felt the lead blanket affect as my body felt like i was phasing out of it, sort of like my body was being pulled into a black hole feet first, and while this was happening i had the tingling sensation slowly creeping up my spine. Now this is where it got reallly interesting. whilst i was visualizing still, i focused on my third eye at the same time as noticing my breath and the high pitch sound in my ears all at the same time, and in an instant my mind became SO STILL and clear it was amazing, i was fully phased out of my body, then all of a sudden one of the objects i was visualizing appeared extremely vividly in my eyelids so i foucsed on it really hard and all the patterns in my eyelids filled out MY ENTIRE ROOM in 3d like lead fillings arranging on a magnet. It felt like i could walk into the image, it was very dmt like but unfortunatly it lasted for about 3 seconds because i was so happy and excited tht i found a way to enter dreams on demand. Prior to this the hypnagogic images where slowly starting to look like multiple realitys in a fractal like arangement. ps this was without the wake back to bed method, just straight to sleep, and a moderate THC high Was what i experienced a dream forming? had i have been calm could i have entered that image and started the dream? how can i improve this because nothing im my life matters more than getting this on LOCKDOWN.

[moongrass]

well for one I can say this probably was a dream-lit. Since you was just sleeping for the first time you cant directly enter REM to have a full dream, I would suggest you use WILD/WBTB. So that way you can easily (or atleast easier) enter a LD. Im far from a pro but I can try to help.....

[Lusion]

thats one thing i forgot to add, i felt my eyes moving at ridiculos speeds and as it came closer to manifestation my eyes where the last thing i lost notice of. the experience was gorgeous, it was like i was in a reality selection room! i think what might have happened is a meditation-release of dmt, because by smoking dmt you can enter REM instantly, so is it possible to trigger it yourself? cos it damn felt like i missed the chance to step right out of one reality into another

[moongrass]

IDK, im sure its possible but you would have to be super awesome at meditating....

[cygnus]

IDK, im sure its possible but you would have to be super awesome at meditating.... *I'm sure it's possible but you would have to be super awesome at meditating.

[Lusion]

with help from dmt i was able to remember the experience, and use it as a template and i was really shocked into an ecstatic feeling when it worked. ive read many places that dmt is used sort of as a taster to show meditation students what to aim for (im not saying theres places that actualy do this, but in general, people use it as a target, like people who have just taken up being a tutor in the name of good) soon as my body started phasing out i recognised everything from the dmt trips ive had but i didnt go to the source, i went into another version of my room, i cannot fully describe the clarity, it was fucking imense, for a few seconds it was more real then my room is at the moment! i do recomend to everyone who is REALLY SERIOUS about learning to lucidly dream/astraly project (you know, to get 'up there' if you understand me) that they do some research about the drug and go and do it, it WILL give u the ultimate version of reality and the best possible feeling of leaving your body you can get, and it will really help you in meditation and projection/lucids as something to aim for again. for instance, after my first trip on it, i had 4 of the 9 lucids ive had the night after.

[moongrass]

yes I really would like to try it, I just wish stupid ppl wouldnt couple it as a "drug" and class it like heroin or crack, pisses me off!

[dreamspinner]

mate anything that plays with your body is called a drug and by the way if you do use these kind of things its not realy you thats having the dream its the drug so good luck and mess up your brain...

[moongrass]

I know its a drug, thats not what I was trying to say, I was saying its not addictive or really bad for you like crack or heroin. Also your brain is still producing all these things, a drug doesn't have images or memories inside it and if you think it does than why is everyones experience so different??? DMT is the prime chemical that causes dreams and is naturally in your brain. Please do some research before commenting on something you obviously know very little about.