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      Why..?

      Every WILD attempt I have had has been a fail. I tried one today for a nap at 2:00, it is now 3:13, so I layed there for over an hour, still as can be, not thinking to much...
      with every WILD attempt I have it turns out to be like an hour later of me just laying there. My upper body does begin to feel numb but that's it.

      -Any advice?

      -thanks!

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      Because WILD is a very difficult technique for the experienced only. Even i have enormous trouble making it work, and i have 2-3 LD's a week from DILD like techniques. I only managed to make it work once, and for me it isn't worth the hassle nowadays since DILD works much better.

      A good suggestion i have is to go get some sleep!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Higgs2 View Post
      Because WILD is a very difficult technique for the experienced only. Even i have enormous trouble making it work, and i have 2-3 LD's a week from DILD like techniques. I only managed to make it work once, and for me it isn't worth the hassle nowadays since DILD works much better.

      A good suggestion i have is to go get some sleep!
      Well, honestly DILD's are way to random, I only get like 1 DILD every month and I work very very hard at it. Once mastered you can WILD every night... So to me its worth the trouble learning the technique so you can master and and thus LD every night.

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      We must not forget that a WILD is exactly the same as falling asleep normally (aside from remaining aware). You want to fall asleep.

      Tutorials will tell you to sit still, don't scratch or itch, don't even swallow; it becomes very regimented and I feel the main reason people fail WILDs is because they don't listen to their body. A tutorial should be a guideline, not a militant schedule.

      Back in the day, I spent about a month experimenting with all types of information from this site: relaxation techniques, different sleep schedules, WBTB times, napping, all that jazz. It was suddenly obvious that not everyone falls asleep at the same time, falls asleep as fast or as often, falls asleep while lying completely still, and so on. Sleep habits are very personal and thus, WILDs are too.

      So, step one is to change it up, do something different, find what works for you. When you WILD, try to act as you would when you're normally falling asleep. Move around, get comfortable, get cozy and get sleepy; remember, you want to fall asleep. The main thing we're doing differently is staying aware, not letting the mind wander all over the map. You want your brain activity to be at a point where it's not so high that you never sleep, and not so low that you just crash and wake up cursing yourself for drifting off.

      Breathing techniques are my favourite. They keep me aware, but my mind isn't buzzing. It's generally accepted by people who do things like yoga or meditation that breathing deeply from the diaphragm is the most relaxing. Try to extend your stomach more than your chest. My grandma always tells me, "Try to imagine that each breath is breathing you."

      There is no wrong technique. If you come up with something new that's entirely different from what you've read, that's fine. All that matters is that it aids you in the transition to sleep paralysis, and paralysis to lucid dream.

      I would also advise that you consider changing up your WBTB schedule. Generally, 5-6 hours into an average cycle will be around the time of your longest REM cycle. Yet I've had WILDs after half an hour of sleep, an hour, two, three, four, everything! There are many factors to consider. Things like melatonin production have peaks and valleys through the day. I've read it's highest between 9PM and 10PM, but not everyone goes to bed that early. Not everyone will have the same amount of melatonin or other chemicals related to sleep/dreaming and as such, not everyone will have the ideal sleep cycle. This is all affected by diet. Now rather than calculating all of your chemical balances or imbalances by studying every aspect of what you eat, it's much easier to just change how long you sleep before a WILD. Personally, I don't bother with that. I find it works best if I randomly wake up in the middle of the night. I also prefer to immediately WILD upon waking up; I never bother getting out of bed (unless I have to use the washroom, obvs').

      Now that I've lost my train of thought, go ahead and post whatever questions you may have.
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      The problem here to me seems that you are too aware and are not letting your body fall asleep. As the quote goes, "mind awake, body asleep" that is what you want. Anyway, since it seems to be your first or few times this is happening, my best advice is to keep trying and it should become a habit and you should get into a dream state much faster after a while. So in summary, give it some time.

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      Do it like 5mins after you get up,Drink some apple juice lay back down. Sometimes I just wake up after a long nap and get up turn down the TV mess with my dog a bit and try to wild. I don't know why everybody always says to wait like 30 mins I've never needed too. But Maybe that's just for wake back to bed

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      Thanks every body! I think my problem is just focusing to much on getting SP and such.

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      Yeah I get the same problem as ou rynkrt3 lay there feel myself getting numb feels like my beds spinning then I look at the clock and im like wtf 1-2 hours...for a bit of numbness and spinning. ..seriously need to practise this technique alot if you want to use it consistently.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Inphinity View Post
      Yeah I get the same problem as ou rynkrt3 lay there feel myself getting numb feels like my beds spinning then I look at the clock and im like wtf 1-2 hours...for a bit of numbness and spinning. ..seriously need to practice this technique a lot if you want to use it consistently.
      Ohhh yah lol, I remember one time I looked over and 2 hours went by, no shit. It had felt like 30 minutes maybe a little more lol. I think I just need to experiment with how much attention im giving my anchor, like, don't give it to much attention then you will stay awake(my problem) but also, not to little cuz then you will fall asleep normally. Its all about learning that perfect level of awareness as you fall asleep. Good luck! ^.^

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      The first one I ever did I think I read about wilding once before, anyways I just woke up to go to school I have about 20 mins of time to just use up before I have to get i the car. So Since I felt Tired I just layed down didn't even really try to do anything, then I just noticed I was like Experiencing all these changing scenes of people and places only staying in one for about 10 secs at a time, it was almost a dream but a lot of things were missing, I then went to this final scene which was really vivid, stayed there for about a minute, then I could just feel myself going into a dream, I just knew, and I was there shooting at somebody on a teridactal while falling in Mid-air, then my mom screamed and I was forced to wake up which really pissed me off.
      The point is it's a lot easier than most people make it out to be, They over think about it you gotta let your mind go blank but hold on just a little bit.

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