Thread: I Hate WBTB

This morning I woke up at 8.00am after getting 6 hours sleep. Anyway I stayed awake for a while, reading a few things about WILDs on my computer and went back to bed after (somewhere around 9.00am give or take a few minutes). I got relaxed and before long I was completely numb.

Then I started counting "1. I am dreaming...2. I am dreaming...etc" at every exhale and got to around 600. Somewhere in between my back started getting really sore which usually only happens if I sleep like 14 hours but I kept on going. I was in transition for i'd say about 30mins until eventually I gave up.

After I was done I looked at my phone and it was 10.20am!! 80 minutes and still nothing. Well, I think its safe to say WBTB doesnt work for me . I thought you were supposed to go directly into REM sleep with WBTB.

Does anyone have any pointers or know if I had stayed conscious 10 more minutes would I have entered REM?

Well, going to sleep at 2 AM is way too late. Try going to sleep at around 10 or 11 and waking up at 4 or 5 latest. At 8, you're more alert and awake, and then it is way too hard to go back to sleep. You want to be in a very low brainwave state so you can still be sleepy when going back to bed. Try it again, but at around the times I said before.

You didn't do just WBTB you added WILD to it, in fact, all of that is a WILD, if you want to use WBTB that does not include falling asleep consciencely, although I do recommend you combine it with MILD, wake up after 6 hours of sleep, or even 5 if you have to get up early, then tell yourself that the next place you will be is a dream, then imagen that lucid dreaming feel. then just fall asleep, unconsciencely.

Oky doky thanks for the advice

yeah and try it more than once before giving up. it's not gonna work everytime you know.