Thread: Woah... I Think I nearly WILDed

Sometimes, transition fails and you return to a waking state. It could have been anything like a distraction you didn't notice or concentrating too hard.

It sounds like you were really close though. Please keep trying, I think you are almost there

Aha! I just read your fantastic tutorial on the five phases of WILDing, it's cleared a lot up for me. I always thought it was essential that you see HI (I'd read the ld4all website and that's the impression I got), so I was slightly confused as to why I started the physical sensations without seeing much apart from weak light splodges.

I'm really pleased that I got so far on my first try.

It looks like I just slipped up at the very end of stage four...

Could you give me some advice as to how I should stop myself waking during this stage?

I waited for about five minutes after the weird feelings stopped. It felt as if I was still in my room. It was at this point when I opened my eyes, and my dreamsigns didn't do anything weird.

Should I have waited a little longer after these sensations finished? How can you tell that you're in an LD? On ld4all, it said that as soon as you see a clear object in HI, you should try and touch it, but I didn't go through HI, so how does this work? Oh, and it also said something about a 'knowingess' that you can enter your LD. Does this happen all the time?

Thanks,
Xei.

This is a really gray area Xei. Sometimes if you try to touch the object too soon, you will shatter the dream. I always wait until the vibrations and any sinking sensation has stopped. At that point I am in the dream, although sometimes it is dark until I open my Dream eyes.

I think you might do better tonight. Most of the time, by the time the sensations have stopped, you are within the dream with full sensory input.

OK.

I think I must have been so overwhelmed by the sensations last night that I had woken up by the time that they had stopped. This time I'll try and keep a cool head.

By the way, when you open your eyes, are you in your room, or have you been transported to a new location?

You /both/ have now officially inspired me for once and for all to try WILDing.
Better late then never, right?

Sure!

I'm honoured.

It is one of the most amazing things that can happen to you. Well, to me at least. You might not feel anything, it depends on the person...

I can safely say that it's the weirdest experience in my whole life, though. Well worth it.

Just remember: It's nothing to be worried about. You can trust me.

By the way, I didn't WILD last night.

I think I got to the last part of stage 3, as I felt numb and maybe even 'fuzzy'. I think I must've lost concentration at that point, because then I woke up and it was five hours later.

Ah well. I'll try again tonight. I got so close on Sunday... If only I'd known what to do as I went through the transition stage, I may have had my first Lucid Dream...

At least I could remember what I dreamed of. I was shooting at a load of people who were invading my... Uh... Campsite.

Actually, I've forgotten to note it in my Dream Journal. I'll see you later.

Originally posted by Xei
By the way, when you open your eyes, are you in your room, or have you been transported to a new location?

I am transported to a new location when this happens. Now with that said, do not expect to be transported yourself, it is just as likely that you will still be in your room. People have WILDed into false awakenings before, so be sure to do plenty of reality checks if you find yourself there.

Yes, I imagine that I'll find myself in my room for some reason.

When I go through the transition stage, I can always feel my physical body. Is this a bad thing, and if so, is there a way that I can ignore my physical body?

Oh, and I noticed last night that my eyes only shake when I put a slight pressure on them, and I have to be almost asleep. I guess that this is how your body does REM. I have a feeling that when I WILDed, I was putting pressure on my eyes, and this is why they were moving. I think that taking the pressure off of my eyes might help me go into a dream.

Sorry for double posting.

I tried to WILD again last night. I set my alarm for 10.30am because that's when there seems to be least noise from birds etc.

I had a half-hearted attempt at a WILD before I went to sleep. I started to feel numb, but then I dozed off.

When my alarm clock went off, I started to WILD. I think that I know when I'm about to go into the Transition Stage when my muscles start to twitch, but as I've only WILDed once before, this is a pretty vague guess. Does any one else start twitching?

Anyway, I began to twitch. My hands felt really heavy, as if they were stuck down, and so did my legs. But at that point... The phone rang. Someone, for some completely unknown reason, had decided to leave it right next to my bed. I answered it, and all I could hear was a strange bleeping. For a fleeting instant, I thought I may have somehow ended up in a dream, so I did some reality checks. None of them worked, though. (Or didn't work, depending on how you look at it). The stupid thing was broken.

Then I tried again. I got to the same stage again... And the phone rang again. I was pretty annoyed at this point. I knew that all I had to do was get into the transition stage and then it'd be easy. Someone answered the other phone downstairs.

Moving would mean that I would lose everything, so I just let the phone lie where it was. I began to WILD again, I got to the same stage again, the wind blew, and a door in the house slammed.

As you can imagine, this is very frustrating. I tried one more time, and the door slammed at exactly the same point again.

So. I got out of bed, ripped the batteries out of the phone that someone had put next to me, and walked down the corridor to the offending door. It was the one that led into my brother's room. What annoyed me even more was the fact that all he had to do was lean over and pull it shut. In revenge, I slammed it, and vowed that should I manage to ever WILD, I would throw him out of the window.

I gave it a few more tries, but it was too late. And here I am.

Looks like I'll have to try again tonight. It's so annoying... I know that I can do it with relative ease, yet I seem to be very unlucky whenever I almost get there.

Hopefully my extreme determination to do it tonight will help.

Hi Xei,

I have been having similar experiences in my attempts at WILDs and I haven't been completely successful yet, though I like to think I'm very close. I purchased some good ear plugs for when I attempt to have WILDs during the day and I seemed to make some more progress--you might want to do the same.

Good Luck Tonight!

Thanks!

What stage have you managed to get to?

If it were not for distractions, WILD would be so much easier. Almost every failed WILD I have had has been because of some sort of distraction. Have you considered getting a white noise generator and keeping it going beside your bed? It masks out a lot of those little noises.

I read about it, but I don't know what one is.

Can you hear a high pitched note... Or am I thinking of the wrong thing?

Originally posted by Xei
Thanks!

What stage have you managed to get to?

I'm still not exactly sure. I could definately feel myself sinking and my eyes seemed to be twitching quite a bit. I just woke up from trying it again but I think maybe I was too concious. Every time I felt I was getting closer my heart rate would speed up and I would feel wide awake again

I'll intend to give it another shot this afternoon. Maybe I need to learn how to relax better.

What I found was that it was me making my eyes twitch.

When you're next WILDing, try putting a slight pressure on your eyes. It seems to create a fake REM. It has no advantage - In fact, it may stop your brain from WILDing, or completeing the transitional phase.

Good luck with your attempt. To stop yourself getting too excited, just say to yourself that it's all just a ride from one place to another. That's what I do - It seems to keep the heart rate down a bit, which I reckon was one of the culprits in my failed transitional stage.

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What I found was that it was me making my eyes twitch.

When you're next WILDing, try putting a slight pressure on your eyes. It seems to create a fake REM. It has no advantage - In fact, it may stop your brain from WILDing, or completeing the transitional phase.[/b]

I was afraid of that--I was wearing a hankerchief over my eyes because my room gets kind of bright during the day (when I take naps). Oh well, glad I got that mistake out of the way--one step closer to success!

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Good luck with your attempt. To stop yourself getting too excited, just say to yourself that it's all just a ride from one place to another. That's what I do - It seems to keep the heart rate down a bit, which I reckon was one of the culprits in my failed transitional stage.

Thanks, that actually sounds like a great idea.

Oh dear. I lost conciousness.

I got to the stage where your hands go tingly again, but I suppose I lost concentration.

I'll try and think about what I did different when I managed to get to stage 4...

I suppose it's just patience.

Wish me luck for tonight.

Edit: Hmm... Thinking back, I seem to remember feeling a falling sensation, but then snapping out of it and ending back at stage 3 again...

I really have to relax a bit more whenever I get into stage 4.

It is very fun, though.

Hey, I just found this thread. I downloaded that 2 mp3 cd thing on lucid dreaming, and it puts you into what you are describing here. A Wild type state. The man on the mp3 counts to a certain number while telling you to 'follow' the rain into a lucid dream (they have rain pouring in the backround) My body starts to feel extremely numb, and it takes a few tries to move even a finger. The man tells you to imagine a scene with the rain, and to follow it into the wild...The thing is, I imagine a scene, everything from the looks, the smells and the feel of everything. It all feels quite real, but I dont know if I am dreaming or not... I can always feel my pillow behind me head, and I can slightly feel the couch im laying on...How do I get passed this? (keep in mind I'm doing this at the beggining of the night, and I DO feel the REM and vibrations)

Originally posted by Xei
I read about it, but I don't know what one is.

Can you hear a high pitched note... Or am I thinking of the wrong thing?

get a fan. put it on high. works

Hey good job there... I have a kind of love/hate with WILDing. I've tried it on and off many many times, and stil havent' got there, but each time I do it I get a small feeling that I was almost there, and if I could only find one little thing then I would be successful.

Yesterday I tried it for a good 40 minutes. At first I nodded off for a minute or two because I was a little tried, but after that I started concentrating on my breathing until I could feel the vibrations and the numbness start. They got really strong and my heart started to beat really fast and chaotically, and I think that this is where I kind of screw up. I stay too excited and eventually lose concentration.

I decided to try and calm myself a little when I was at this stage, and mainly try and slow my heartbeat again, because WILDing is not just a case of getting SP and vibrations, it is also a case of falling asleep, but doing so consciously. I started to count each breath, which took my attention away from the vibrations etc and slowed my heartrate down again.

At this moment I kind of gave up because my muscles were aching so bad, but now I am cursing myself. I think that if I had kept it up then I might have made it. One thing that I found frustrating was that I for one moment had the same... energised feeling as I've had when I've become lucid before, but it didn't last long and I couldn't concentrate. I get minimal HI if I get it at all, and so I don't seem to be able to use the same visuals as others do to try and 'pull' themselves into a dream. Sometimes I will try opening my eyes but I will just find myself in my room again, which is rather disappointing.

Next time I will try it like this:

1: Get really energised, get my heart beating really fast and with strong vibrations and sleep paralysis.

2: Start to gently relax myself and return my heart-rate to normal by counting my breaths

3: When I am relaxed again and starting to get a litlte hypnogagic imagery and sound, I want to try and 'let go' if I can... see if it does anything.

Let me know what you guys think.

sounds like a good plan there bud. i used to see some HI and my heart would race really fast instantly and wild would start easily. since i quit weed recently my wild attempts are horrible. they take forever and i just fall asleep. im so pissed. weed really helps with wild. trust me. thikn about it. if u can be really high and see HI blobs just from blinking or closing your eyes for 10 seconds, then its doing something right. now it takes forever just to see those for me

Hello again! I've just been on Holiday for a bit, and then my PC broke. Sorry for the delays.

Yesterday, I went to a theme park, and went on some rides. Most of the more intense ones were drop rides.

Last night, I tried to WILD.

I'm sure you know the feeling - When you go to sleep at night after going on rides, or being on a boat, you can still feel the motion. Well, that happened to me, and it made it very easy to get into Stage 4.

Instead of vibrations, I had the (from what I've read, common) feeling that I'm incredibly heavy, and I'm sinking. However, I encountered pretty much the same problem as last time - These feelings stopped (this time after about 5 seconds), and I was back in Stage 3.

I had the feeling of being on a ride again instantly, and after a while I went into Stage 4 again. The same thing happened.

Could someone suggest a reason as to why I can't break through the Stage 4 barrier - What do I need to do?

Thanks again for all of your help,
Xei.

Edit: Oh, just as an aside, I recently had a dream in which I ate something very strange - It may have been drugs. I've never taken drugs in real life, but as soon as I ate the strange substance, everything went crazy. I was in a room at the time, and all of the walls went green and patterny, and I felt very weird. I was just thinking that it's very strange that the brain knows from birth what it's like to take drugs...

Another Edit: Sorry about this, it's been so long and I keep forgetting what happened in my absence. I managed to become Lucid in a dream on holiday, but it was about 5% Lucid - hardly anything. I didn't WILD, I was just having a dream. All that the dream was, was a face of somebody who I don't recognise. It was 2D. I suddenly realised that I was dreaming, and the dream ended. It was so un-Lucid that I think I just dreamed that I became Lucid...