Thread: Inducing Vibrations

Originally posted by DejaSoul
Hello,

What is your most reliable method to induce vibrations?

~Deja

You should search up some of Aquanina's old posts... I think she is the expert in this particular field (among others).

Hello,

I'm not looking for a tutorial. I have my own method for inducing vibrations. I was just wondering what everyone's "favorite" method was.

~Deja

Do you mean for an OBE?

In that case I repeat a music tune in my head which gets more intense until the vibrations begin.

Works most of the time.

I have experienced intense vibrations, but I'm not so sure I have a strong method. If it happens great, but I can't control it. I should probably try day dreaming.

This is supposed to be ordered...but I didn't figure out how to get ordered list to work...:
[list]Lay really still[*]Don't fall asleep[*]Hear intense ringing in ears[*]Repeatedly tell self "You are dreaming"[*]Get overwhelmed by vibrations and fall into lucid dream...
[list]

Getting vibrations? I find the easiest way is to pretend that im falling down deeper and deeper into my bed and after 5 minutes or so after saying this I kind of feel like im falling then and i feel my mind drifting away from my body and i experience the vibrations.. I still can't get past the vibrations stage though.. it's been 2 weeks since i've started, and I can't stay calm

Hello,

If you look at Einstein's Theory of Relativity, E=mc², you understand that Energy is equal to Mass x the Speed of Light. Why is that formula important when it comes to Astral Travel or Lucid Dreams? Oh it is!

Here's a way to understand it by the laws of physics. Everything in our universe is made of particles - neutrons, protons, electrons. How fast those particles vibrate will decide what something is. If the particles vibrate slower than the Speed of Light, they are corporeal/tangible/physical. If the particles vibrate faster than the Speed of Light, they are non-corporeal/intangible/non-physical.

What vibrates slower than the Speed of Light? Our Earthly Plane - our bodies, homes, nature, etc.
What vibrates faster than the Speed of Light? Other Astral Planes - our thoughts, spirit, some spirit beings, etc.

So when we begin to vibrate, our bodies are sending us a signal that our Inner Light is beginning to "reach out" to vibrations in the universe which vibrate at a faster/higher speed. But why does our Inner Light do this?

Because to participate in an Astral Plane with higher frequencies, we must "match" that frequency. We must "meet" it. For example, if a Spirit wishes to enter our physical Earthly Plane, what must it do? It doesn't have a body as we define "bodies," but in order to communicate with us in our world of lower vibrations, it must "take on" or "assume" a lower vibrational state so that we can understand it, comprehend it, and interact with it. This is why we can sometimes see Angels, Spirits, or Loved Ones who have passed on. In essence, they "greet" us by lowering themselves to a vibrational frequency which enables us to see them.

The same goes for us. When we go to an Astral Plane with a higher frequency, we must modify our vibration so that the environment and spirit beings can understand us, comprehend us, and interact with us. We "greet" them and their environment by lifting our vibrational frequency to enable them to see us.

But "where" do we meet them? On what Plane or Dimension?

Space consists of many Dimensions, but let's look at the ones which we operate in daily. The first 3 Dimensions are Space. In the first 3, we travel through them by physical movement. Simple enough. The 4th dimension is Time. To travel in Time (on this Plane) we do so by aging. But what is the next Dimension? The 5th dimension is our KEY to Astral Travel according to quantum mechanics. It is the first Dimension we reach which is 2 directional. The 5th Dimension is Thought and the first Plane we come to which operates faster than the Speed of Light. Our thoughts are quicker than the Speed of Light. To "go there" is to project your thoughts/feelings/emotions. As someone put it, "where your thoughts are, there you are."

Because it is 2 directional, this is where you can interact with the Dimensions beyond it. Think of it like an Exit Door. Once through it, you are leaving behind lower vibrational Planes. So, when you begin to feel vibrations while in WILDS or via any other method, think of it as an invitation from a Plane vibrating faster than the Speed of Light. This is why I choose to Exit during vibrations, and not after. I accept the invitation as soon as its given.

Now, having said all that, the way I induce vibrations might be just as you assumed. By using the qualities of the 5th Dimension. It difficult to explain because I am using my Thoughts to interact with it, but if I had to put it into a structured, corporeal way of understanding, it would be something like this:

1) I lay in bed and let go of ALL corporeal (physical) thoughts. I pay no attention to the position of my body, I do not visualize anything from the Earthly, low vibrational, Plane. If I do, then I am "where my thoughts are" and thus, "stuck" in a lower vibrational state. I am aiming for a higher vibration so that I can visit a higher Plane, so I make sure my visualizations are abstract and light.

2) I keep alert. I do not want to fall asleep before entering a higher vibrational state. I do this through affirmation, but again, not by speech, because the lower vibrational quality of my voice will keep me "stuck" to this Plane. I'm in the 5th Dimension and must keep my affirmations as "Thought." So, I might tell myself (my spirit) to find someone (a spirit being) to help me. I never use "I will" statements because they trigger my mind to believing it "will" happen but with no specific time. Therefore, I use "I am" statements. Example, "I am with the light" or any positive "I am" statement.

3) All the while, I am perfectly still. Only in the first few minutes is this difficult, as the body and mind adjust to my purpose of "ignoring all that is corporeal" and heeding "all that is non-corporeal." When the body/mind finally figure out, for lack of a better term, that I am not going to heed to their physical signals, the spirit within me comes to the forefront and takes over. This is when vibrations begin to occur. The average amount of time this takes me is about 30 minutes to an hour. It depends on how physically tired I am. The more physically drained I am, the easier it is for the body to tune out and let the spirit take over.

~Deja

Originally posted by DejaSoul
Hello,....

....Now, having said all that, the way I induce vibrations might be just as you assumed. By using the qualities of the 5th Dimension. It difficult to explain because I am using my Thoughts to interact with it, but if I had to put it into a structured, corporeal way of understanding, it would be something like this:

1) I lay in bed and let go of ALL corporeal (physical) thoughts. I pay no attention to the position of my body, I do not visualize anything from the Earthly, low vibrational, Plane. If I do, then I am \"where my thoughts are\" and thus, \"stuck\" in a lower vibrational state. I am aiming for a higher vibration so that I can visit a higher Plane, so I make sure my visualizations are abstract and light.

2) I keep alert. I do not want to fall asleep before entering a higher vibrational state. I do this through affirmation, but again, not by speech, because the lower vibrational quality of my voice will keep me \"stuck\" to this Plane. I'm in the 5th Dimension and must keep my affirmations as \"Thought.\" So, I might tell myself (my spirit) to find someone (a spirit being) to help me. I never use \"I will\" statements because they trigger my mind to believing it \"will\" happen but with no specific time. Therefore, I use \"I am\" statements. Example, \"I am with the light\" or any positive \"I am\" statement.

3) All the while, I am perfectly still. Only in the first few minutes is this difficult, as the body and mind adjust to my purpose of \"ignoring all that is corporeal\" and heeding \"all that is non-corporeal.\" When the body/mind finally figure out, for lack of a better term, that I am not going to heed to their physical signals, the spirit within me comes to the forefront and takes over. This is when vibrations begin to occur. The average amount of time this takes me is about 30 minutes to an hour. It depends on how physically tired I am. The more physically drained I am, the easier it is for the body to tune out and let the spirit take over.

~Deja

Very interesting... I'll have to review my own Auto-suggestion programs and weed out the "I will"s and replace them with "I am"s. And several thoughts and associations come to mind. I remember reading from Anne Catherine Emmerich, Catholicism's foremost Seer and Visionary from a few Centuries back. She had been able to go back in time and witness the Transfiguration of Christ and His meeting with the Spirits of Moses, Elijah and Malachi. She said that while Moses looked like Moses, and Elijah looked like Elijah, it seemed that Malachi had quite began to relinquish the need to look like a Human Being any longer, and instead had something of the Appearance of being a Pure Spirit, like an Angel. Apparently our Souls carry a great weight of physical and spiritual inertia, keeping the appearance of animals long after any necessity requires it. In this context it seems like a good motif of ideas that Deja presents -- to be careful of the thoughts that we generate, and that higher spiritual thoughts are better than the lower physical ones.

Regarding Spiritual Planes. In our Dreams, there are not Street Signs indicating what Plane one happens to be visiting. But there are indications. The best indication is the Intensity of the ambient Light. More Light means more Higher. It is invariable. For those who have read the Bible, it should be pointed out that some of it is clearly wrong.... when Paul says that the Devil can appear as an Angel of Light, I suppose he would say such a thing because he had his own quarrels with Angels and Light and wished to discredit them. One needs to keep in perspective that Paul was an advocate for the abolition of all Law, he advocated Sin as a necessary element of Human Nature, and he advocated a blanket forgiveness of all Sin as some Spiritual Reward for having Murdered the Messianic Christ. So it is little wonder that the Angels may have set themselves against him, and himself against them. But for our purposes, we can understand that the Higher Our Dreams take us, the brighter will be the ambient lighting.

What can we do if we find our dreams a bit too dark. Well, dream Levitation has always been able to work well in lifting one up from one Plane to another. Now, don't insist upon flying and flying and flying until one runs out of time and awakening becomes inevitable. Go up and allow oneself to come back down. You will find your new Dream Scene brighter. Other people have found the Dervish Whirl a good means of lifting one's Dream Scene to a higher Vibration. I should try it... it may work faster than Levitating upward, but, again, I can only guess, as I have not tried it personally.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
For those who have read the Bible, it should be pointed out that some of it is clearly wrong.... when Paul says that the Devil can appear as an Angel of Light

I don't know if the bible is correct or incorrect on this point. But, negative entities can indeed appear as positive spirits. They draw upon the environmental energy on the Earth Plane to transfigure their appearance. As for the \"devil,\" if he does exist, he is a powerful energy and still an angel which is not confined to the depths of hell, at least not yet. He was cast down to the Earth Plane, according to the bible, and seeks the ruin of souls until the day of Judgment. Of course, there are many ways of interpreting the bible, so I'll leave that hot topic alone By the way, the writngs of Ann Catherine Emmerich are facinating, as is Saint Bridget of Sweden, who also described events from the past.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
In our Dreams, there are not Street Signs indicating what Plane one happens to be visiting. But there are indications. The best indication is the Intensity of the ambient Light. More Light means more Higher.......What can we do if we find our dreams a bit too dark. Well, dream Levitation has always been able to work well in lifting one up from one Plane to another. Now, don't insist upon flying and flying and flying until one runs out of time and awakening becomes inevitable. Go up and allow oneself to come back down. You will find your new Dream Scene brighter. Other people have found the Dervish Whirl a good means of lifting one's Dream Scene to a higher Vibration. I should try it... it may work faster than Levitating upward, but, again, I can only guess, as I have not tried it personally.

You are spot on with this...exactly. Up or "away" not only affects the amount and exposure of light, but it also affects my mood while LD/OBE. I am not particularly a "flyer" and never have been, but I do project myself higher, when needed. I think it's important for some people to note what you're saying, as many feel fear, panic, or confusion after exiting and projecting upward can alleviate much of these negative feelings.

~Deja

i can feel vibrations doing a WBTB session sometimes. other than that, (get ready for it), going to bed high always seems to induce vibrations very quickly. not that i am advocating that.

i think lucifer could appear as an angel of light. i mean he is an angel after all. itis interesting to hear that he was cast to this plane, but wouldnt that mean physical? would that be evident to the idea that hell is physically in earths core? not sure if anyone has researched anything about it, but i heard about some guys drilling to listen to earths plates. instead they were spooked beyond belief at what they heard. i have heard this sound file. it is rather disturbing. well, disturbing doesnt begin to describe it. i wouldnt recommend googleing it personally. that being said, do either of you think we could astrally choose our final destination upon death? the bible does say there is an uncrossable void between the two. does this possibly hint at the astral planes?


Deja, once you feel the vibrations, do you just imagine yourself exiting? getting lighter? is it really that simple? 8)

seeya

wow, you two really know your stuff. I will definately use your tips next time I feel the vibrations coming on.

Originally posted by jay dawg


i think lucifer could appear as an angel of light. i mean he is an angel after all. ...


seeya

Honestly, Jay, you really need to lay off the dope long enough to give your brain cells some time to recover some balance. Lucifer WAS an Angel. You don't think that by choosing the Dark Side and Rejecting God and His Heaven there might not have been some repercussions?

Our new friend, Deja Whatever, pointed out that there are Planes of Ascending Vibrations. I pointed out the correllary to this, that the Rising Vibrations of the Higher Planes corresponded to a brighter intensity of perceived Light. All very scientific.

Then you come along and with the Propostion that the Chief of All Demons must still have his Light Intact because hundreds of thousands of years ago, BEFORE HE QUIT AND DECLARED WAR AGAINST GOD, he had at one time used to be an Angel.

This would be like you maintaining that you still had the innocence and intelligence of the child you used to be before you grew up, left home and decided to spend the rest of your life getting wasted on drugs. No, it doesn't happen that way. Innocence can be lost. One can reject the Light. Lucifer rejected the light. It is gone. And you rejected any good sense you might ever have had and traded it all for a bag of weed.

Either clean yourself up and get straight, or stop trying to confuse serious issues with your drug induced idiocies.

fuck god

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fuck god[/b]

Because what you posted offends me, this is will be last and only time I will respond to your questions.

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Deja, once you feel the vibrations, do you just imagine yourself exiting? getting lighter? is it really that simple?

I assume you're asking me about OBE and not LD. If regard to OBE, the answer is no, I don't simply imagine myself Exiting.

Let me try to clarify. When I feel vibrations begin, I wait until they spread throughout my body. The main areas I'm concerned about are my extremeties (hands, expecially) because by the time this occurs, my entire body is in a heavy vibrational state. If I could choose something to liken it to, it would be the E string on a guitar. It's a very strong and low reverberation.

At this point, I Exit by separation. Meaning, I either roll over out of my body or sit up. I prefer rolling to the side because I don't especially enjoy the effect of viewing my body partially in/out. I much prefer a "complete" Exit.

For LD, I wait usually wait until partial or full SP, and then project my visualizations into the dream.

So in short, LD's are a usually seamless transition. With OBE's the transition is more apparent.

~Deja

Jay can u send me a link to where you found this audio file, or a page with information on it?

Because what you posted offends me, this is will be last and only time I will respond to your questions.[/b]

it offends me too, but you couldnt begin to understand the hell i am going through right now in my life. thanks for your help while it lasted.

Intersting. So that's what that heavy feeling I've been getting is? Next time I get to that state, I'll let my mind wander for a while, then try 'releasing' everything and drop into the dream. Seems like those other times wasn't just spontanous, but me just giving up, and dropping into the dream.

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Intersting. So that's what that heavy feeling I've been getting is? Next time I get to that state, I'll let my mind wander for a while, then try 'releasing' everything and drop into the dream. Seems like those other times wasn't just spontanous, but me just giving up, and dropping into the dream.[/b]

Hello Ashton,

When you feel heaviness, this is a very low state of vibration - almost inperceptible - but very good. The quickest release is simply to breathe very deeply (through your nose). Try to fill your chest instead of abdomen while visualizing a door or entry way. I've found that just a few deep breaths is all it takes to drop into an LD when the heaviness occurs.

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it offends me too, but you couldnt begin to understand the hell i am going through right now in my life. thanks for your help while it lasted.

We're all human. We were all born with the ability to feel hurt and pain, love and joy. You're not alone. Rise up like a Phoenix my friend.

~Deja

I have a problem with WILD - after lying still for about 5-10minutes, my body twitchs somtimes, like a leg will jolt, or my arm, does this count as moving?
I also have trouble keeping my eyes closed/still... i was thinking of taping them shut!

Originally posted by KryCheQ
Jay can u send me a link to where you found this audio file, or a page with information on it?

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly...ly/aa031599.htm

at the bottom of the page - the links don't work anymore though.

and if you read;
http://www.god-zone.org.nz/helldrill.html
it tells you it was all a hoax.

Okay, so just relaxing everything doesn't seem to work. I'll try the deep breath, and the envisioning.

Originally posted by NullAshton
Okay, so just relaxing everything doesn't seem to work. I'll try the deep breath, and the envisioning.

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10742

I can relax just fine, it's the going into a dream state.

Originally posted by freefalling
I have a problem with WILD - after lying still for about 5-10minutes, my body twitchs somtimes, like a leg will jolt, or my arm, does this count as moving?
I also have trouble keeping my eyes closed/still... i was thinking of taping them shut!

Body Twitches - Completely normal and does not count as moving because they are involuntary.

Help with Eyes - Wear a comfortable eyemask - not a cheap one which is usually uncomfortable. Use a lightweight, cushioned one. You can find them at Target in the beauty section.

~Deja

I've had the twitches before, but they've gone away by now.

Thanks, DejaSoul,
but I don't think I would be able to wear a mask to sleep, but will deffinatly look into it further.