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    1. 12-06-2005 12:32 AM #1
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      Odd States and spasms

      I have never been able to fall asleep on my back, yet laying on my side is very uncomfortable when attempting a WILD. I've had some great imagery on my back, intense relaxation, and a few vibrations (slight). On my side the only thing that feels relaxed are my feet, I don't get imagery, and breathing feels absolutely nasty.

      At first it started out well, very relaxed, very peaceful, and incrediably easy to breath. Well after the first real vibrations (the first real intense vibration I've had in the last two months) breathing changed slowly.

      You know that surprised/scared feeling you get right under the sternum? It intensified, I wasn't scared or worried but my body was, and I could feel my heart beath every time my breath went out. It really felt uncomfortable.

      The first WILD I ever completed successfully went right through every stage without the slightest bit of surprise, so I wonder what the deal is? I wasn't even able to fall asleep after an hour of WILD, then another 40 minutes of WILD...

      Matters were made worse by a weird CNS problem I've had sice 7th grade, never been diagnosed as it isn't a real problem. My hands are usually shaky, and sometimes I get these horrible mini-spasms in any random location. They don't hurt, but its so unbelievably uncomfortable that I have to change position when it flares up- today on my side this happened, leaving me no choice but to move my arm. I never found a place for it and had to give up.

      This is kind of rambling, but if anyone has ideas....
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    2. 12-07-2005 02:18 PM #2
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      I have that too, If I try to WILD, I'll have some spasms on my legs and maybe some shakes in some other parts. And my heart beath very fast and strongly. That happened until I started seeing some stuff and hearing sounds ( * thats the cool part * ), that's when I finally was able to relax. Even though I would loose focus when I hear a sound .

      I think I'll be unable WILD because of these problems.
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    3. 12-08-2005 07:15 AM #3
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      I've noticed huge improvement after a month of WILD attempts, and I feel I am getting closer to the day it happen again.
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      Invisible Pink Unicorns are beings of awesome mystical power. We know this because they manage to be invisible and pink at the same time. Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
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    4. 12-08-2005 01:13 PM #4
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      Involuntary muscle movements have never been a general problem, although it does happen on occaision.

      For example, I was trying to sleep with music on last night and whenever I was drifting off my leg would jerk. It would have been kind of funny if I wasn't so tired. As it was it was just annoying.

      I find I quite often get some sort of cramp in my legs and feet while I'm trying to get to sleep, which poses a simelar problem. I have to rearrange my legs and then start relaxing over again.
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