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      WHOA Wild was something like i have never Expericanced

      Well...I didnt complet the wild at all but what happened Was Very cool. I woke up after 6hours of sleep...stayed up for approx. 45minutes. Then i started my wild....I layed there for about 15minutes with nothing really...i saw maby some very mild lights dancing but they were so mild it could have been my imagination. I also herd no sounds...i kept realziing i was having little day dreams though, and pushing them out of my mind...it was like in school or something when you are spacing out...you are imagining something happening and you can see it but its not really a dream...the the teacher yells and you snap out of it...this kept happening and i kept realzing and pushing those thoughts out of my mind...tommorrow morning i am going to try WILD again but let these day dreams flow..i think it might have just been my mind wandering though, (thats why i kept pushing them out) WELL ANYWAYS! Right after i pushed a day dream out of my head it happened ! Almost instantly...My heart started beating Very fast, and i was short of breath, i tryed to stay calmb (mentally) but i couldnt catch my breath and my heart was pounding..im not sure if it was SP bcuz i didnt try and move..i was waiting for imagines to pop into my head...wich now that i think about it could have been thoughs day dreams. ..my body felt a little numb! it was the Strangest Sensation ever, if i wasnt excpecting it i would have pissed my pants in fear (while this happened i did what it said in tutorial and repeated in my head, i am dreaming, i am dreaming bla bla bla ..slowly.)....well anyway my throat filled up with spit and i took a deep breat (out of my breathing pattern) and swallowed ... then the feeling went away (i killed it with the deep breath and the swallow//..tonight i might put salt in my mouth first so i dont get spit) ..i lied there for another 15minutes and whole prosess happeend again but it wasnt as strong at all...then when the feeling whent away i figured sense images were not poping up i could have been in a FA so i did a RC and realized i was awake so i went to sleep. Well if you have any sugestions for tonight let me know..ima try salt to help with the swallowing...(oh yeah b4 the WILD try i had a glass of chocolate milk) Also tonight ima not push thoughs day dreams out.

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      yup, that sounds like SP to me its pretty wierd at first, but neat (i think so anyways).

      you're really close. good idea to try not to push the daydreams (or hypnagogic imagery (HI) as many here call those images). but another important thing is to try not to 'pull' the daydreams towards you/yourself into the dream.

      tons of times when i was trying WILD i'd get really strong sleep paralysis, and start seeing images, but then i'd try to 'force it'. most experienced WILDers i've talked to agree with me that passive concentration is the main point.

      my first successful WILD i just laid there watching images pass before my mind, which gradually formed fleeting scenes, which gradually formed a restauarant. the key thing (and the only thing i did differently than all the failed attempts) was that i didn't hold onto them, or push them away. i just let them be.
      after enough time they formed a restaraunt quite realistically, and i noticed i was literally sitting on a stool in it. so i remained calm and said "this is as good a time as any to see what happens", and i just started walking around in the dream it was so cool. and the dozen or so i've had since have all been the same.

      dont 'touch' the images at all. they will do everything. don't try to prematurely declare "this is probably a dream!!" and stir the water while a reflection is forming of your mind. wait until everything around you suggests "this IS a dream", and i'm IN it (not looking at it), and then calmly take it from there..

      just my opinion, but it works everytime for myself.

      good luck. it shouldn't be long now if you keep trying. probably this week i'd wager. happy dreaming


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      (editing's more work)

      also, don't try to consciously control your breathing. it will take care of itself the same way it always does when you are drifting off to sleep...i spoiled about half a dozen attempts by fearfully inhaling when it felt like i wasn't breathing.

      but if you get that feeling, ignore it. trust me, you won't stop breathing and pass out or anything..trust you body's natural processes. but maintain an ember of awareness smoldering underneath the sheet of ash...and wait until a lucid dream brings it flaring up again don't i wax poetic giving advice while partaking of hashish.,..


      “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” (or better yet: three...)
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      No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world. I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker. - Mikhail Bakunin

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      hey

      Sweet, thanks for the response, yeah im going to try another WILD tommorrow morning and take into account what you told me.

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      Usually before I attempt to WILD I begin soul breathing which is when you concentrate on breathing until mind and breathing are as still as the tranquil waters of a lake. and after a while a subtle inner rythm will arise which will take control of your breathing. It makes it easier to let the breathing be done alone.

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      ok

      Yeah well its 4 in the morning, i just woke up with no dream recall after 6hours of sleep :-/ but whatever im going to try a wild soon. Ill try the breathing techqiq first.

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      Re: WHOA Wild was something like i have never Expericanced

      Originally posted by ShYne123
      Well...I didnt complet the wild at all but what happened Was Very cool. I woke up after 6hours of sleep...stayed up for approx. 45minutes. Then i started my wild....I layed there for about 15minutes with nothing really...i saw maby some very mild lights dancing but they were so mild it could have been my imagination. I also herd no sounds...i kept realziing i was having little day dreams though, and pushing them out of my mind...it was like in school or something when you are spacing out...you are imagining something happening and you can see it but its not really a dream...the the teacher yells and you snap out of it...this kept happening and i kept realzing and pushing those thoughts out of my mind...tommorrow morning i am going to try WILD again but let these day dreams flow..i think it might have just been my mind wandering though, (thats why i kept pushing them out) WELL ANYWAYS! Right after i pushed a day dream out of my head it happened ! Almost instantly...My heart started beating Very fast, and i was short of breath, i tryed to stay calmb (mentally) but i couldnt catch my breath and my heart was pounding..im not sure if it was SP bcuz i didnt try and move..i was waiting for imagines to pop into my head...wich now that i think about it could have been thoughs day dreams. ..my body felt a little numb! it was the Strangest Sensation ever, if i wasnt excpecting it i would have pissed my pants in fear (while this happened i did what it said in tutorial and repeated in my head, i am dreaming, i am dreaming bla bla bla ..slowly.)....well anyway my throat filled up with spit and i took a deep breat (out of my breathing pattern) and swallowed ... then the feeling went away (i killed it with the deep breath and the swallow//..tonight i might put salt in my mouth first so i dont get spit) ..i lied there for another 15minutes and whole prosess happeend again but it wasnt as strong at all...then when the feeling whent away i figured sense images were not poping up i could have been in a FA so i did a RC and realized i was awake so i went to sleep. Well if you have any sugestions for tonight let me know..ima try salt to help with the swallowing...(oh yeah b4 the WILD try i had a glass of chocolate milk) Also tonight ima not push thoughs day dreams out.
      hey thats the exatly same thing that happened to me.Only that i could hear voices also like dissapearing.They were like radio voices when u try to tune ur radio to a stacion but cant find the right frequence and u hear voices from other radios.And my body was really tired and all the sensations u said.it was pretty cool.

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      Sweet, heh...sense i already dont get enough sleep im only going to attempt wilds on weekends but let me know when you finally get one.

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