Unusual WILDs

[Darkan]

I've managed to do some WILDS so far, but there's one strange thing that I noticed : I effectively go from an an awake state to a lucid dream, but during the WILD process, I encounter no hypnogogic imagery, very few hypnogogic sounds and merely sleep paralysis (I have a light feeling, but I can easily move my limbs). I just pass from a state of total blackness (in which rise weak voices sometimes) to a state where the dream is starting with its own storyline, and I can see it from an above point of view (in my last dream, I could even hear the dream character meant to be me talking, like a narrator). Usually, I just have to talk in order to get into the dream (especially during the last WILD, I felt that if I didn't DO something, I was going to lose consciousness, so I said something like "Hey, don't forget about me !"). So I'm wondering, are there other people who can WILD without feeling any HI and barely SP like me ? If they could share their experience, that should help me (and maybe them, who knows ? ) to improve my WILD technique (because I feel that I'm getting the hang of it, but I sure ned some help...).

[sloth]

I can. I'm not sure what your real question is, though. I'd be glad to help. I have to have something to go on though. -sloth

[Darkan]

I know I wasn't very clear... I'd like to know how you and other people in my case manage to WILD ; what mental efforts you have to do in order to stay conscious, even if there are very few signs of the fact you're getting close to the dream.

[sloth]

How do I stay awake? If I am so tired that I feel like I am about to fall asleep, I won't do it. I will wake myself up a little bit. Go read the forums or something. I've always been a big wuss when it comes to trying to stay awake. I just don't put myself in that position. I've always been a bigger fan of the WBTB method. -sloth

[blade5x]

Unusual... I achieved Sleep-Paralysis this morning only to have moderate vibrations along with a feeling that my teeth were being pulled out. Very painful! I had to pull out, first time I ever felt that. For me, my best chances of falling into Sleep-Paralysis is right after waking from a dream. Usually, I wake up, lay there a few seconds, and all of a sudden I feel like I'm falling into myself, that goes on for maybe 3 seconds or so, and when that's done I'm in Sleep-Paralysis. I'm trying to figure out how to LD from there other than having it in OBE form. I can "roll-out" and begin one at anytime during SP, but I have to say, as amazing as it feels, I want to begin a setting somewhere other than my room

[Darkan]

Well, I've managed tonight to stay in a "close to the dream" state for nearly an hour, but failes to enter completely a lucid dream. During my last 2 attempts of WILD, it ended the same way : I am at a state where I can hear HS like if I was in a crowd (many voices, mostly of friends of mine), then a dreamscape appears. The first time, it was a regular dream, which I was seeing from above. I said something in order to get into the dream, but instead of entering, I was rejected from it, and finished lookint at my dream through a TV in my room, TV that disappeared quickly no matter how much I focused to get back into the dream, and left me in my real room (I did RCs to verify). Last night, my vision of sight had become a computer screen, in which I could read the letters without them to fade or go wild. I clicked in a button with the cursor in order to enter the dream, but the screen turned off... I'm almost there, but I still need to find what to do...

[sloth]

Wow. Wait wait. You are having trouble getting into a lucid dream. Dude, I think you're HAVING lucid dreams. When you go to click on the monitor, do you know that you are trying to get into a dream? Anyway, next time you see your dream on a monitor, forget the monitor. Look at what is around the monitor. While you are clicking on stuff, look at your mouse, then move your mouse to another area of the room. This will force your brain to generate the rest of the room you are in, and you will start a lucid dream from a room where your computer is. This is my opinion. Don't fight yourself over your dream. You are in control. If you are dreaming that you are trying to get into your dream, than you are lucid dreaming in my book. You should forget about trying to 'get into' your dream, and start seeing what you can do with what you have. I would love to see my dream from top down view, in a lucid dream, because I would immediately try to look at my hand. If I could see my hand, I would wonder why I could also see myself from top down view. Perhaps I would float down to my other self and start questioning him. lol! Anyway... Dude, I think you have it. Your conscious is just so eager to have it that it is afraid that it doesn't...if that makes sence. -sloth

[Darkan]

Well, I did this post early in the morning and I didn't have much time (was having an exam this afternoon) so I'll explicit things a bit. About the story of the monitor, maybe I shouldn't have tried too much to enter into the beginning of the dream I just left, because I guess it caused me to awaken. However, about the screen and cursor story, I must add that I didn't have any body when it happened, and all my field of vision had become the desktop / task bar / windows and stuff, but I didn't really see the monitor. Also, when this kind of things happens, I have to stay focused on what I'm seeing, because if I lose my focus a little bit, I come back to the blackness state. The first time I successfully WILDed, I saw a man who just had an accident in the middle of a road, and I told him "Don't worry, it's just a dream", which caused me to fully enter into the dream (which means that I feel myself really falling into the dream). So I guess that I have to do something before entering completely the dream ; but maybe you're right, I may be so much afraid of failing that it prevents me from complete the WILD. But I feel that I will very soon find the answer...

[blade5x]

Wait? What? Are you going obe to look at your computer screen to try and jump into a LD? Or is the computer screen just HI? Because if it is HI then I think you just need to wait, or start a setting yourself. I'm not expert on LDing, I'm actually having alot trouble in WILD as well. Atleast you can see a dream, I can't get past the blackness unless I go obe (which may be a LD but that's all I'm good at doing right now).

[Mr.caramel]

I havnt had a WILD but what your saying is that your trying to hard. What i mean is that you must at least found it a bit fustraighted and you weren't relaxed but relaxed anoth to keep your mind looking at the computer screen. Don't force yourself into it let yourself flow into it. If you see the computer screen or TV, don't force yourself flow with it and see were it goes or flow into the tv slowly so tht you can focus on it. It might be a bit fustraighting because you have done it with ease the few last times, maybe your being a bit to fustraighted for it to carry on. Well that what it seems or it might be a ne stage you haven't have to deal with it in the past and your brain is doing know. You might just need a bit more practise at this.

[sloth]

I agree with Mr. Caramel. Try not to force it so much. I think this is part of worrying about it going right. Just let it flow. Work with what you have. If all you can do is dream from top down view, then ask yourself, verbally. Where is my body? Your consciousness will respond by saying, 'Oops. ' and will give you a body. It should anyway... If it doesn't. Explore what it is like to not have a body. I think that would be fun! Try to look at your hand and see what you can see. -sloth Don't give up. You're almost there.