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      Paralysis

      Hey, I have been having paralysis everytime I try to obtain lucidity. I lay there trying to go asleep then I start feeling like I can't breathe and then I am like paralyzed in my bed. I see weird things and I can't make them go away.

      Can anyone help me?

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      YOu start seeing these "wierd things" which are Hypnotic Imagagry. They occur before you enter a dream.

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      It may not be pleasant, but having hypnagogic visions is a sign that you're in that transition state that many WILD dreamers aim for on a regular basis. Think of it as an accomplishment, and this positive attitude should help you cope. I know it's not as easy for you to do as it is for me to type, but think of all of the failed WILD attempts that dreamers have had, and how they wish they'd gotten as far as you did.

      Actually, I went into sleep paralysis last night for the second time, although I have yet to have a lucid dream. I've only gotten as far as feeling the crushing sensation and having vibrations throughout my body. I can never make it to that transition state, but it's still worth it just for what I do experience. Maybe it's weird that I find pleasure in losing control, or maybe it's all part of learning. My psychology teacher seems to think it's natural, at the least.

      Anyways, best of luck with the imagery. If there's any progress, please post. I for one am interested in learning about this, and I'm sure many others on the board are interested too.

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      Is paralysis supposed to happen everytime you try to enter a lucid? I wonder if I am trying to become lucid the wrong way. Am I supposed to just fall asleep then look for dream signs or just start off trying to become lucid? I usally start off with trying to become lucid at the start. Am I doing something wrong?

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      Originally posted by hop_ic
      Am I supposed to just fall asleep then look for dream signs or just start off trying to become lucid?
      Yes!

      I have been having lucid dreams on a regular basis for eleven years. I have NEVER had one through sleep paralysis, even though I've actually tried to.

      Through sleep paralysis is ONE way to go about lucid dreaming, but it is not the only way by any means.
      There are WILDs, MILDs, WBTB method... There are even things like, PUNISMENT ILDs, and THIRST ILDs, and URINATION ILDs... There are LOTS of ways to induce a lucid dream. I can go into more detail on each of these methods in a little bit.

      Sleep paralysis is not required for a lucid dream.
      As a matter of fact, it's always prohibited me from having them.

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      Originally posted by sloth
      WILDs, MILDs, WBTB
      What do those stand for?

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      Sorry. Guess it doesn't help if we throw acronyms around.

      WILD, or Wake-Initiated Lucid Dream, refers to slipping from consciousness to lucidity without dreaming in between. It involves waking up during a REM period (rapid eye movement sleep, when most dreaming occurs), preferably a later one, and thinking somewhat logically while allowing sleep paralysis to take its course. From what I hear, it's pretty difficult, but your experience with sleep paralysis (SP) means you're already part of the way there. Fear is the biggest obstacle of this method.

      MILD is the Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams. You use repetition and focus on convincing yourself that you can wake up during a REM period (or use an alarm), then convincing yourself to recognize that you are dreaming upon falling asleep again.

      WBTB means Wake Back-to-Bed, and with it you wake up early, think logically for a short time, then take a nap and attempt to lucid dream.

      DILD, or dream-initiated lucid dream, is just that: you're dreaming normally, and then it hits you that you're not seeing real things. Many people do this by practicing reality checks, asking themselves if their reality is actually true. Some people do it upon recognizing dreamsigns or unusual things, while others make a habit of doing it spontaneously during waking hours. The main site covers this method, in case you haven't noticed.

      I strongly suggest checking out all of the tutorials to see if any method seems attractive to you.
      Can somebody who has actually had a lucid dream back me up on this info? I could be misinterpreting it...

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      thank you

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      A few years ago, a similar post about paralysis was posted...try and look it up.

      From what i remember, the brain automatically releases a mild paralysing chemical into the brain right before sleep to keep the body from hurting itslef (ie. falling).
      ...it seems that people who walk/talk in their deep sleep have a deficiancy of this chemical...


      Again, its been a couple years, so look it up in the forum and online...

      Rest assured, that your paralysis is completely normal when transitioning between the conscious and unconscious.

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      Hm
      try and use this paralysis thing as a benefit.
      Although it is scarey, i try to control myself whenever i get it.
      usually i end up falling asleep-
      you can try have an out of body thing and concentrate on a plesant location

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      Originally posted by gamersince93

      Can somebody who has actually had a lucid dream back me up on this info? I could be misinterpreting it...
      Yeah. I got your back.
      I'm actually pretty impressed at your knowlege in the area, having never had one.

      There is also:
      T(hirst)ILDs, where you go to bed really REALLY thirsty, and lay a glass of water next to you. If you find yourself drinking this glass of water, you will know that you are dreaming.

      P(unishment)ILDs, where you PUNISH yourself every time you don't have a lucid dream.

      R(eward)ILDs,

      U(rination)ILDs, where you drink LOTS of water and go to bed. When you find yourself urinating, you will know that you are dreaming. Very risky. LOL

      I think it's all sort of silly, that there are so many acronyms for the same thing, but whatever. I developed my lucid ability without any knowlege of the subject, and it never inhibited me. I didn't know these acronyms. As a matter of fact, I didn't know there was a NAME for what I was doing. I just knew that I was exploring my dreams every night.

      -sloth
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