Thread: Lucid virgin needs some guidance

I only know about Lucid Dreaming for 3 days now, ive tried it two nights without much succes:
Dream journal: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33466

2 tries, 0 sucess, hey im just starting so its not much to worry about. But i thought i could use some help nonetheless

I'll first describe what/who i am so that you may notice things that make it harder to have an LD

- I use the PC through most of the day, about 8 hours or more a day, and also all the way up untill its bed time.

- Im a disbeliever, i only believe things if i have expirienced them myself and know they are true. Now LD isnt something like fortune telling i know, but its still completely new and unheard to me and thats why its hard to really believe in it.
This makes it hard to really have the intention put into the words when i say i want to Lucid Dream at night..

- I have a hard time getting to sleep. If im really really tired and its late it might take me 30mins to fall asleep, generaly it would take me 1 hour, sometimes 2 hours. If it takes longer then 2 hours i'll probably have an insomnia that evening and not sleep at all

- My mind is chaos. I'm a real thinker, i think and think and think, and imagine, and fantasise, and contemplate etc.
This leads to utter chaos in my mind at times, which is particular noticable when trying to get to sleep. This might also be the cause why it takes me so long to fall asleep.
Words just fly through my mind like racing cars, and theres no orderly fashion in it. Ill think of a movie, of a game, of school, of having to find a study, ill of what to do for the team im in, about a movie again, about whats been said on a forum, about a game in creation etc. etc. its just totally insane.
This also makes it hard for me to focus just on getting a LD, since my thoughts keep wandering.

- I had a really big nightmare problem as a child, this whole LD thing has brought those memories back and it kind of frightens me like a little kid again when i go to sleep and im all alone in the darkness of my room
Thats why i have to put music on and keep my dog with me, but the music does distract me a bit.

- I go to bed late, like 1am-2am, so ill fall asleep around 3-4am and if i wake up 5 hours later its 8-9am, then i need to stay awake 1 hour which makes 9-10am and if i then go to sleep its morning and i cant sleep anymore!!




That being said, on to the questions...

The first problem is attaining WILD.
I mean, i got no clue about how an LD is, i got no clue about the 'signs' of entering WILD. I hear about HI and those things but i just dont have a clue what they would look like. I been pressing my fingers on to my eyelids with all sorts of pressures but i dont really get any images or anything

Also since my mind is utter chaos and it takes me so very long to fall asleep its hard to keep relaxed and focus on falling asleep
Secondly, how can i fall asleep if i have to keep my mind awake, this means i keep have to stay awake thinking things doing maths etc. but how then can my body fall asleep?
Another annoying part is that the second part where i go to bed after waking up 5 hours later etc. it is pretty light in my room and it shines in my eyes :S

I close my eyes and get all drowsy after awhile, but i keep having to stay awake with my mind, my body does feel tired and it gets heavy but then im not in a good spot to lie and turn around. Does turning around break WILD!?
Should i remain in the same position all the time?
Does my body get paralysed before seeing HI!?
How do HI look like!?
Will all sounds from waking life dissapear before or after HI!?
Are HI really obvious!? So even somebodyw ith no expirience like me will immediatly see that HI have started!?


So this is the tactic i used:
Do RT all through out the day. I put on a broken watch that is at 11:30 all the time and do RT with that, and i look at my hands to see if theyre normal. I also carried a symbol with me of a green elephant and everytime i saw this card i did RT's

At night i read about LD's, had two cup of sleep tea. They have valerian etc. stuff that should make you fall asleep quicker.
I went to my room and sat down in a meditation style and just relaxed and tried to put my mind at ease.
I went to lie in bed, and kept telling myself "Tonight i will dream and I WILL look for dream signs. And when i wake up i will remember it"
I set my clock to wake me up 6 hours later

I did the Don Juan technique and looked at my hands and said "This is real, im not dreaming. But the next time i look at my hands i will be dreaming"

Then i did the CILD. Where i looked at my third eye Chakra and closed my eyes and kept looking at it for 3 mins. All that happend was that my eyes started.... hard to explain.... vibrate? Blink without opening my eyes? something like that.
Anyway nothing more happend so i just looked normal and tried to fall asleep entering WILD.

In the end i fell asleep without being aware, and i woke up 5 hours later, 15mins before my alarm clock would go off (I always wake up before the alarm goes of when i set an alarm, its weird)
No succes with dream recall, it felt like i had no dreams whatsoever.
So i went behind my PC, read about LD's for 1 hour and went back to back.

I tried to get WILD but once again no success, fell asleep without awareness..

Woke up pretty late, around 12:00 or so, i didnt remember any dreams, until 30mins later i was still in bed and turned around on my belly, suddenly all my dreams (as described in the journal) poored out of my head.
Yet, in none of them did i ever think about Dream Signs or doing a RT.
They were so real, its not like anything was extremly out of place like a green elephant hopping around (Thats what i hoped by looking at the card all day)
And i didnt even think or look at my watch ones...




Am i doing something terribly wrong? Got any tips?
HELP!