Thread: AAAL - Awoken At Another Location

Sound pretty simple. But why do you imagine yourself falling asleep somewhere else then you actually are? Couldn't you just know that if you awaken anywhere different then where you fell asleep, you are dreaming? Or is it if you have a False Awakening and if you wake up where you really fell asleep you will know you are dreaming? Also are the Alpha, Beta, Delta whatever things just stages of sleep? What is you succes rate with this method seems to look pretty good.

I'm so confused. While falling asleep, you tell yourself you're somewhere else, then when you believe you're in that place, you tell yourself if you wake up there, you're dreaming?

Yeah I'm confused about that too. Seems like you would just tell yourself that if you wake up anywhere different than you are now you are dreaming. But wouldn't it be even simpler to tell yourself that if you wake up anywhere(FA) your dreaming?

Seems like a very good method, thanks. I'm going to try it in the next nights.

For the above posters: Self hypnosis and suggestion work best and most efficiently by visualizing things, not only things, but specific locations, specific situations. Associating one specific location with a lucid dream works a lot better than something abstract such as 'anywhere'. It works even better if you can associate positive emotions and memories with that place or situation. Of course this method is a certain form of dream incubation, so it might need some practive.

This sounds like a combination of HILD and VILD. Interesting.

This sounds interesting. It probably is (like most new techniques) an adaptation of an existant one, but can definitly make it easier for people to succeed. I'm going to give it a shot, cause to me it looks like this is really a DILD where you are trying to notice you woke up somewhere else as a dreamsign (if I got it all right). This sounds appealing to me.

Originally posted by Yatahaze
Seems like a very good method, thanks. I'm going to try it in the next nights.

For the above posters: Self hypnosis and suggestion work best and most efficiently by visualizing things, not only things, but specific locations, specific situations. Associating one specific location with a lucid dream works a lot better than something abstract such as 'anywhere'. It works even better if you can associate positive emotions and memories with that place or situation. Of course this method is a certain form of dream incubation, so it might need some practive.

But still, it doesn't make sense to me, I think I'm reading it wrong or something. One part says you trick yourself into thinking you're sleeping somewhere else, so you'd assume you'd wake up there, right? On the other hand, it seems you're also telling yourself that if you wake up there, it's a dream, which means you're telling yourself that you're not there...right? I mean it sounds like you're supposed to tell yourself two contradicting things while trying to sleep, and I just can't do that. My brain is like "Well, what is it? Are you here or aren't you?"

Last night, I convinced myself that I was sleeping in Hawaii (I was just there for a week), and I really thought I was there, but when I tried thinking about waking up there being a dream, I was just confusing myself.

What part of this am I not understanding?

The part you're missing is that dreams are always paradoxical. You are in two different places at once. When it says that you are at place XY, it doesn't mean your body is there. You're not your body. If you're in that specific location in a dream, it means that you are actually there rather than only projecting an unstable image of something. For the sake of the technique and basically ANY technique, you need to let go off your body and your thoughts of what might be where in reality. Disassociate from your body and go with the dream world. The idea of your body lying in some specific bed shouldn't be more than just latent background knowledge mostly irrelevant for the progression into the lucid dream.

Well, I thought the point was that you tell yourself you're there so you know if you wake up and you're not there, you know you're dreaming.
But if I tell myself I'm somewhere I'm not and I start a dream there...that doesn't help me know I'm in a dream at all because I just think I woke up where I was supposed to wake up.

Agh, I just confused myself even more there.

Well most cases you're not concious enough to remember you were just sleeping. If so, why couldnt you just WILD into the next dream scene. Typically when you're in a non-lucid dream you're not thinking "I JUST WOKE UP"! If you knew that much it would already be a pre-lucid dream.

This doesnt make any sense to me; it just seems like allot of extra steps.

Yeah! In none of my dreams to I "wake up"...I am just there.

I am a bit confused too, you think to yourself that your are waking up in another location?

I like this method, as I usually only awaken into dream in very specific dreamscapes.. sooo.. this could work.

For all confused:

I think what it is (correct me if I'm wrong), is that you're supposed to go to sleep at (location A). While falling asleep, convince yourself of falling asleep at (location B). When waking up in the dream world, you wake up in (location B) and are supposed to realize, "Wait, I'm supposed to be in (location A)!"

I hope that clears up a few questions.

Cheers!

--Sam

Originally posted by sj
For all confused:

I think what it is (correct me if I'm wrong), is that you're supposed to go to sleep at (location A). While falling asleep, convince yourself of falling asleep at (location B). When waking up in the dream world, you wake up in (location B) and are supposed to realize, "Wait, I'm supposed to be in (location A)!"

I hope that clears up a few questions.

Cheers!

--Sam

No, I understand it, it's just easier said then done.

The mind doesnt always remember that you just fell asleep and the mind doesnt remember to consider you just WOKE UP and realize you're in a different location.

I hope you don't feel like I was singling you out, phoenelai. I was more posting it for the benefit of the people who are saying "Wha?". That is, assuming I interpreted it correctly.

You know that technique sounds pretty much with an idea I once came up with and never worked on any further.
It was about this idea: ''If I find myself awake in any another situation/scene/context than awaking from my bed in the morning I must be Dreaming''

Since the first ''Real'' thing I'd be doing after falling asleep is waking up and rising from my bed. Anything I find myself doing in between those 2 actions MUST therefor be a dream. However since my Sleeping Clock and dreamrecall has gotten seriously messed up lately(Me Insomniac) I've abandonned that, or any LD-technique, untill I've improved my dream recall enough to remember 3/5 dreams a night.

But the idea of your technique is the same. I think I'll retry this technique with perhaps a mantra: ''All that happens between Sleeping and Waking is but a Dream''

Originally posted by sj
I hope you don't feel like I was singling you out, phoenelai. I was more posting it for the benefit of the people who are saying "Wha?". That is, assuming I interpreted it correctly.

No problems , I didnt think you were just speaking to me; I just replied (for me) based on my own feelings of the technique with a touch of theory!

Cheers!