Thread: Lucid dreams have stopped?

I'm having the same problem. No advice, just sympathy. I can hardly even remember dreams for like a week.

Ah well, at least i'm not the only one I guess, doesn't anyone have any advice? Maybe this is a common problem, if so, somebody must have found a way to start lucid dreaming again?

It is my suspicion that some very Enthusiastic Lucid Dreamers all but eradicate the Higher Dream Mind, that is, they attempt to stamp out any influence upon dreaming other then their own Conscious Control. This is why we see so much Resistance to Lucid Dreaming in many Lucid Dreams -- False Awakenings being the most common.

Now, if you were successful in eradicating the Higher Dream Mind, then this may be the source of your problem. You no longer have a Creative Partner willing to Fabricate Dreams for you.

It is my experience, from asking for particular Dream Messages and Motifs, that it takes the Dream Mind sometimes one, or two weeks or even a month to take a Dream from the first Suggestions all the way to Completion... to when the Dream Appears. Once I had a Dream in which I was shown a 'symbol' of the Dream Creation Process. It was like a huge old News Room (this dream was 30 years ago) with hundreds of people, some dashing around with papers, others busy typing, others chatting at the water coolers, but there was this hummmmm of activity. Dreams just don't pop up from our Subconscious Mind... no, not without alot of work coming from Somewhere.

I would conclude that you need to make peace with whatever it is you alienated. make some apologies to your Higher Dream Mind and promise some concessions. Lighten up on your absolute Control, if that had been the problem.

And if you DON'T know what the Problem is, then put that in your Schedule of Suggestion -- many planned times during the day, stop and suggest that you have a dream that gives you some Oracle Message that will indicate what the Big Problem is.

Now, many Lucid Dreamers think that they can find some technique to disable and destroy actual mental processes -- to shut down the Things that get in their way of Dreaming. This is to make you an Enemy to your own Mind. When you do find out what the Problem is, then figure out how to Work WITH your mind for an amiable resolution. Don't go looking for some technique for destroying your own Mind. Such may be your problem here in the first place.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
It is my suspicion that some very Enthusiastic Lucid Dreamers all but eradicate the Higher Dream Mind, that is, they attempt to stamp out any influence upon dreaming other then their own Conscious Control. This is why we see so much Resistance to Lucid Dreaming in many Lucid Dreams -- False Awakenings being the most common.

Now, if you were successful in eradicating the Higher Dream Mind, then this may be the source of your problem. You no longer have a Creative Partner willing to Fabricate Dreams for you.

It is my experience, from asking for particular Dream Messages and Motifs, that it takes the Dream Mind sometimes one, or two weeks or even a month to take a Dream from the first Suggestions all the way to Completion... to when the Dream Appears. Once I had a Dream in which I was shown a 'symbol' of the Dream Creation Process. It was like a huge old News Room (this dream was 30 years ago) with hundreds of people, some dashing around with papers, others busy typing, others chatting at the water coolers, but there was this hummmmm of activity. Dreams just don't pop up from our Subconscious Mind... no, not without alot of work coming from Somewhere.

I would conclude that you need to make peace with whatever it is you alienated. make some apologies to your Higher Dream Mind and promise some concessions. Lighten up on your absolute Control, if that had been the problem.

And if you DON'T know what the Problem is, then put that in your Schedule of Suggestion -- many planned times during the day, stop and suggest that you have a dream that gives you some Oracle Message that will indicate what the Big Problem is.

Now, many Lucid Dreamers think that they can find some technique to disable and destroy actual mental processes -- to shut down the Things that get in their way of Dreaming. This is to make you an Enemy to your own Mind. When you do find out what the Problem is, then figure out how to Work WITH your mind for an amiable resolution. Don't go looking for some technique for destroying your own Mind. Such may be your problem here in the first place.

Hey, Leo.

We have a few similar opinions here, such as it taking weeks to manifest a dream symbol about a person's life, or that you can't battle with your mind and "take control". So do you feel that self suggestion can be counter-productive if used too forcefully? If you think to yourself as falling asleep, "I WILL wake up after every dream and they WILL be long, vivid dreams.", do you think the mind will just reply, "fuck off. I do what I want." Would it be better to think of the positive life opportunities that will open up for you by LDing as you fall asleep? Are you following me? What did you use throughout your evolution in dreaming to find an understanding with your mind? Meaning, what did you use to initiate the process, what did you use to hone the process, and what did you use to master the process (If, in fact, you have mastered the process, "mastered" being relative.)?

- -Barrett

Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div>

It is my suspicion that some very Enthusiastic Lucid Dreamers all but eradicate the Higher Dream Mind, that is, they attempt to stamp out any influence upon dreaming other then their own Conscious Control. This is why we see so much Resistance to Lucid Dreaming in many Lucid Dreams -- False Awakenings being the most common. [/b]

So basically you are saying that i'm pushing myself too much to have lucid dreams? I don't really try to stop myself from having normal dreams, I just hope for lucid dreams each night and hope to get them. The idea worked for a while but now it seems that my mind's not really wanting to give me a lucid dream anymore.

Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div>

Now, if you were successful in eradicating the Higher Dream Mind, then this may be the source of your problem. You no longer have a Creative Partner willing to Fabricate Dreams for you. [/b]

What is the higher dream mind? I still have dreams (i've had quite a few actually) but i haven't had any lucid dreams. So whatever is creating my dreams is still creating them for me, but it's not giving me the chance to have lucid dreams anymore.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
It is my experience, from asking for particular Dream Messages and Motifs, that it takes the Dream Mind sometimes one, or two weeks or even a month to take a Dream from the first Suggestions all the way to Completion... to when the Dream Appears. Once I had a Dream in which I was shown a 'symbol' of the Dream Creation Process. It was like a huge old News Room (this dream was 30 years ago) with hundreds of people, some dashing around with papers, others busy typing, others chatting at the water coolers, but there was this hummmmm of activity. Dreams just don't pop up from our Subconscious Mind... no, not without alot of work coming from Somewhere.

Well i have been trying to get answers to questions in my lucid dreams, are you saying that my subconcious might be needing time to prepare these responses?

Originally posted by Leo Volont
I would conclude that you need to make peace with whatever it is you alienated. make some apologies to your Higher Dream Mind and promise some concessions. Lighten up on your absolute Control, if that had been the problem.

And if you DON'T know what the Problem is, then put that in your Schedule of Suggestion -- many planned times during the day, stop and suggest that you have a dream that gives you some Oracle Message that will indicate what the Big Problem is.

So I should ask my mind to give me a dream which will tell me why I'm not lucid dreaming anymore? Is that what you mean? It's an interesting idea.

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Now, many Lucid Dreamers think that they can find some technique to disable and destroy actual mental processes -- to shut down the Things that get in their way of Dreaming. This is to make you an Enemy to your own Mind. When you do find out what the Problem is, then figure out how to Work WITH your mind for an amiable resolution. Don't go looking for some technique for destroying your own Mind. Such may be your problem here in the first place.

Well, i'm not trying to stop my mind from doing what it usually does, i let my normal dreams play out, and only end up lucid if sometime in the dream I realise i'm lucid (usually I assume thanks to my subconsious pointing it out to me).

Thanks for the advice Leo, you have a lot of knowledge on the topic, i'm still not 100% sure on what to do, but i'll try suggesting to myself to have a dream which might tell me what is wrong.

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Would it be better to think of the positive life opportunities that will open up for you by LDing as you fall asleep? Are you following me? What did you use throughout your evolution in dreaming to find an understanding with your mind? Meaning, what did you use to initiate the process, what did you use to hone the process, and what did you use to master the process (If, in fact, you have mastered the process, "mastered" being relative.)?

Those are good questions bobvilax2000, i'm interested to know myself. Maybe by thinking of the positive life opportunities we'll get from lucid dreaming it will encourage us to lucid dream more than by trying to force ourselves to lucid dream. I'm also not sure how to get an understanding with my mind either. Shouldn't I already have an understanding with my mind? It is my mind afterall...

Leo, you seem to have a lot of experience in dreaming, how did your knowledge and experience come about? How often are you able to lucid dream (do you force yourself to lucid dream or does it come naturally?). How did you manage to achieve that?

For what it's worth, I'm having the same problem. I was having 2-3 LDs a week and now it's been 7 nights without one. It's frustrating because I'm doing everything that worked previously. I'll wake up after a dream and recognize the places where I SHOULD have known it was a dream yet did not. I'm beginning to think no matter how much you practice LDing it's still a crapshoot as to whether or not you will have one. Maybe (hopefully,) I'll be proven wrong.

Mine too. I started around the same time (late may) and have had about the same number, now it's been seven days of non-lucids. Vividness hasn't been that great either. I'm not busy or distracted from it, I've thought a lot about it since my last lucid: thinking more often in the day whether or not I'm dreaming and trying whatever induction techniques I can think of. I've done less with more success. Ugh. This is getting me cranky.

I thought of a reason why it might be dificult no matter what you do. If your dreams are taking material from your long term memories, it might also be taking your mindset from that period, where you weren't thinking about lucids much. If you're new to LDing, older mindsets will dominate for a while. At the begginning this doesn't happen as much, since lucids are considered a new experience that hasn't been integrated yet. Once the job is finished and you know what it's like, LDs become a low priority task again.

If this is the case, having some new experience that is likely to pop up in your next dream in some form means you'll be in a present mindset, thus more likely to think about lucidity.

A problem with this is there are different types of LD. Mine have been vivid but brief. I don't really know what it's like to be in a long, interesting LD. I thought LDing this week wouldn't be a problem because I'm anxious to know whether I can prolong a LD by looking intently at my hand or some other detail. Similar to how I was anxious to find out if I could LD regularly a while ago.

If there's anything different, it's that I'm trying harder than usual to take control, so I'm inclined to think maybe Leo is right. I've been interested in dreams before learning more about LDing, my generally approach was to leave my dreams as unpredictable as possible. LDing didn't strike me as all that important, even counter-productive since I'll feel less involved in the dream knowing that it's only a dream, or it will cause me to wake up earlier.

Originally posted by chris_+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chris_)</div>

For what it's worth, I'm having the same problem. I was having 2-3 LDs a week and now it's been 7 nights without one. It's frustrating because I'm doing everything that worked previously. I'll wake up after a dream and recognize the places where I SHOULD have known it was a dream yet did not. I'm beginning to think no matter how much you practice LDing it's still a crapshoot as to whether or not you will have one. Maybe (hopefully,) I'll be proven wrong.[/b]

Originally posted by grayegg@
Mine too. I started around the same time (late may) and have had about the same number, now it's been seven days of non-lucids.

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I'm having the same problem. No advice, just sympathy. I can hardly even remember dreams for like a week.

Is it just me or is it interesting that 4 people are having the same problem at once? Especially me, Grayegg and Chris_:
Grayegg started lucid dreaming the same time as me and we've all been having around 2-3 lucid dreams a week which have stopped at basically the same time.

I'm hoping this will pass... I kinda had a lucid dream yesturday (it was more of me dreaming of becoming lucid, my dream self thought ah i'm dreaming i can do whatever i want, but I never actually became lucid...).

Maybe it's just something which happens after this amount of lucid dreaming? Maybe we'll all start having lucid dreams again soon and our minds are just having a break from it now? I've been having heaps of dreams, maybe my mind doesn't want me to have a lucid right now, maybe it's not ready or is trying to catch up with regular dreams?

I thought of a reason why it might be dificult no matter what you do. If your dreams are taking material from your long term memories, it might also be taking your mindset from that period, where you weren't thinking about lucids much. If you're new to LDing, older mindsets will dominate for a while. At the begginning this doesn't happen as much, since lucids are considered a new experience that hasn't been integrated yet. Once the job is finished and you know what it's like, LDs become a low priority task again. [/b]

That might be true, maybe it will just take a while to get into the mindset of lucid dreaming as often as possible... I used to have lucid dreams at least one every three days... I miss that now

I've never heard of dreams taking material from long term memories, but it makes sense, i've had a few dreams where I was at camp, and that was months ago, yet I haven't had dreams of current events, so I think the idea that my dreams are taking material from my long term memories might be true.

A problem with this is there are different types of LD. Mine have been vivid but brief. I don't really know what it's like to be in a long, interesting LD.[/b]

Brief lucid dreams are horrible to me, i've had so many and they're so frustrating, I want my lucid dreams to be really long, that's when I can really enjoy myself and experience the dream world a bit more. Though right now, all I want is any lucid dream, i'm not too picky until I can finally have lucid dreams again.

If there's anything different, it's that I'm trying harder than usual to take control, so I'm inclined to think maybe Leo is right.[/b]

Hmmm, that's one difference between us, i haven't been trying any harder than before, I might even be trying less because before a lot of my lucid dreams just came by me realising in the dream (so nothing I did before going to sleep really seemed to affect it).

I miss lucid dreaming! I haven't gotten to do so much, I was only getting started...

I think my dry spell has ended. Last night I had the longest LD I've ever had (only had 5 so far.) I'm guessing it lasted for 10-15 min. or so (doesn't sound like much but it seemed like forever.) In fact, I remember running out ideas for stuff to do. When I woke up I remembered there's a thread somewhere about things to do in a LD; I'm going to check that out today.

I don't think I did anything different to have this LD, just my usual routine that I've been doing every night. I was a little more relaxed yesterday because this thing I've been working on at work is finally over. Maybe stress has something to do with it? Anyway, don't give up hope guys!

I wouldn't worry. You are probably not even having a dry spell. It is perfectly normal to LD a lot for a while and not LD for a bit after that. I don't think it has to do with a higher dream mind or anything. I don't know why it happens, but it happens to everyone. That being said, I don't think that is your problem right now. Having LDs every 2 or 3 days is great, and it isn't something you can expect to keep up for long periods of time as a beginner. 5 days without an LD isn't bad at all. I started in early march, but just a couple weeks ago started having common LDs (2 times a week), but I only had 1 last week, and haven't had one since last wednesday, but to me that doesn't mean I am having a dry spell at all, and now i am going back to RCing a lot, and expect to LD any day now, most likely tonight. I know it is hard when you are having them often, and then don't have them, but keep at it, as you probably will rebound, and have an LD in the next couple days, and even if you don't, and have a dry spell for a few weeks, that's okay too, as at the end of the dry spell you will come back even better at LDing. I was doing great at first, had a short dry spell, and came back better, so it's nothing to worry about.

I'm getting real close now. Yesterday I found myself in bed in a dream, but as soon as I lifted my head I woke up. Today was the same, except I floated away from my bed. I was a bit anxious in wondering what I would see as I passed through the ceiling, but woke up instead. Other dreams were vivid and pre-lucid.

Actually this is the first time I've really tried WILD. It's dificult to fall asleep while remaining attentive, I feel like I'm lying awake for hours, every little disturbance costing me 15 minutes of relaxation. When I notice a swell of dreamstate vanishing my muscles and resolving my mind's eye, awareness recedes the effect most of the time. It seems I can't be concious of SP without waking up.

Now that I'm forced to, I'm gaining some skill in conciously inducing LDs. Apparently my subconcious heard my dissatisfaction with relying on FLDILD...

It is weird that so many people at the same stage are not doing so well. I hope you are right, PenguinLord13, that rebound is near. I am starting to remember my dreams again the last couple nights. I think I was trying to hard, combining many methods and actually getting sort of exhausted from waking up too much. I'm going to relax and try to take it easy for week or so and see if things improve. Good luck to everyone; any major breakthroughs are inspiring to others so please share!

Well, I hope you are right too PenguinLord13, so far i've still not had a proper lucid dream... it's starting to really disappoint me, but hopefully it will happen soon. I've been trying really hard the past few days again, remembering to concentrate on lucid dreaming and stuff before i go to sleep, but still nothing yet. I've even worked out what I want to do when I become lucid, so hopefully when I do become lucid again it will last for a while.

Also, congratulations chris_ hopefully that means my dry spell will end soon too!

Ok, I had the very same problem at pretty much the same point in my LD "career".

What happened to me and how I successfully solved it:
I was reading a lot about LDing, trying different techniques, doing suggestions every night, recording my dreams, posting a lot. Should I say obsession with LDing? I definitely had a desire to have more LDs. Then came the dry spell and I was baffled, why did it happen? So I started reading more, trying even more suggestions. Still nothing.
Then, one night, out of nowhere an idea came to my mind: "Just relax, dont even think about lucid dreaming". That night I acknowledged the existence of lucid dreaming, but deliberately didnt think about it or try any techniques or suggestions. I also had some weird confidence that I will succeed. It is important to note that this is different from just going to sleep and not doing any technques or forgetting about LDing.
I dont remember how many lds I had that night, I think that was 2+. For the next couple days I also had LDs.
This experience made me come up with the "spring" hypothesis - by reading and doing suggestions you wind up your inner LD "spring", but if you will continue reading and never let go, you will not have much success. Just let go for a night or two and you are very likely to notice results.


Sometimes I repeat that strange technique, but the success only comes when I maintain that weird state of deliberately avoiding thought of LDing, suppressing any hopes or expectations, just letting it all go and replacing them with the confidence in this technique. Last time I was able to maintain this state of mind for two nights that resulted in several lucid dreams, but on the third night I ruined it by givng me a few suggestions... So dont be greedy, have faith in the technique

Originally posted by Ev
Ok, I had the very same problem at pretty much the same point in my LD "career". *

What happened to me and how I successfully solved it: *
I was reading a lot about LDing, trying different techniques, doing suggestions every night, recording my dreams, posting a lot. Should I say obsession with LDing? I definitely had a desire to have more LDs. Then came the dry spell and I was baffled, why did it happen? So I started reading more, trying even more suggestions. Still nothing. *
Then, one night, out of nowhere an idea came to my mind: "Just relax, dont even think about lucid dreaming". That night I acknowledged the existence of lucid dreaming, but deliberately didnt think about it or try any techniques or suggestions. I also had some weird confidence that I will succeed. It is important to note that this *is different from just going to sleep and not doing any technques or forgetting about LDing.
I dont remember how many lds I had that night, I think that was 2+. For the next couple days I also had LDs.
This experience made me come up with the "spring" hypothesis - by reading and doing suggestions you wind up your inner LD "spring", but if you will continue reading and never let go, you will not have much success. Just let go for a night or two and you are very likely to notice results. *


Sometimes I repeat that strange technique, but the success only comes when I maintain that weird state of deliberately avoiding thought of LDing, suppressing any hopes or expectations, just letting it all go and replacing them with the confidence in this technique. Last time I was able to maintain this state of mind for two nights that resulted in several lucid dreams, but on the third night I ruined it by givng me a few suggestions... So dont be greedy, have faith in the technique

So I basically deliberately don't think about lucid dreaming and don't try any technique (except for your non-technique technique) and I'll hopefully have lucid dreams? It's worth a try seeing as nothing else is working. I've not tried a few times when i've gone to sleep, but I don't think it was deliberately. Basically, as I understand it, you are saying to just not push myself to have a lucid dream and it might come. I'll try it tonight!

I really hope it works because i still haven't had a lucid dream... it's so annoying and frustrating

Heh heh, my dry spell just had a flash flood.

Apparently I entered it right away, as if waking up again from my real bed. I either WILD/FILDed well, or got lucky. Don't quite recall, other than remembering I had trouble getting back to sleep (thinking and restless on whether I would LD) after waking up after five hours. A few seconds into the dream I was close to bursting it apart with excitement, as you can understand..

I stared at my hand a lot throughout. My digits never deviated from five, I think practicing this excessively over the last 12 days finally convinced my subconcious that my hand contains five fingers. But it wasn't for RCs anyway, rather for stability/clarity. It worked well, not hours of adventuring as I would hope, but a solid few minutes for some experiments. The most satisfying of which was flying speedily to the border of the atmosphere, high enough to make the daylight sky yield to the black, starry background. I guess my mind didn't know what to form from there, leaving me back on the ground the next instant. I was ecstatic nonetheless. And *still* not awake.

I had enough time to touch a few objects in my room (if my hand didn't simply pass through), wander around the neighborhood, see space, AND complete both lucid tasks. The bone chucking skeleton I raised woke me up.

Yeah invader, I don't need to tell you how much it sucked to go until today without an LD. I thought of a technique you and moonbeam might want to try, I think I still will in the coming days. When you wake up after the initial 5-7 hours, immediately go on a walk someplace. Pretend you woke up from your dream bed and went to walk to the same places, thinking about what you would try to do there while in a similar dream. Daylight might be a problem if you don't go to bed after midnight.

Wow this is really weird, I had an LD last night too. No lucid task completion (congrats, grayegg, that is awesome!) but I am very happy nonetheless.

What did it? I don't know for sure, but I will list the things I have tried; maybe one will be useful to someone.
-- I did at least hourly RC's, with the help of a vibrating watch, and tried to do them out loud if possible without being a freak.
-- I put the watch under my bed last night (it kept waking me up if I wore it). I don't know if I heard it or not after I went to sleep.
-- I made a recording of different situations that should trigger me to suspect I'm dreaming (i.e., "If you are in a strange house, you may be dreaming.") I have like 10-12 of them, and I played them to myself in the car on the way to and from work, and really thought about them and talked to myself out loud.
--I gave up on the earphones with messages at night, I was getting too tired.
--I also kind of gave up on FILD since I couldn't get it to work anymore.
--What else? I said to myself frequently that I really wanted to LD.

I think EV is right, I really didn't use any technique (unless I heard the watch) except for keeping LD in my mind, a lot, and then kind of giving up. I think if you do that, you are bound to have one eventually. I hope everyone brings me closer...to what I want (do them every night? perfect control? etc.)

Good luck to all who are still trying and hang in there; I didn't think it would ever happen either.

P.S. I forgot one important thing I've been doing; I have been keeping my dream journal faithfully.

Must be something in the dream-ether that is helping all of us break the terrible dryspells. So keep that in mind, those of you still in yours....the wind is coming your way...maybe you'll feel it tonight...

Well, this is strange, but I too had a lucid dream yesturday! Hooray! It wasn't a great lucid dream, I was worried about keeping it going throughout the dream but I was lucid. I got basically nothing from the lucid dream and didn't get to do anything i've been planning to do (I knew that I wanted to do it, but didn't get to do it in time).

Anyway, congratulations to everyone, I think my dry spell has kinda ended, hopefully i'll have another lucid dream tonight, getting last night's lucid dream and keeping it going was really hard (took me ages in the dream to realise I was dreaming, but holding my nose and seeing I could breathe still worked, it was the first time i'd tried it).

Ah well, hopefully this lucid dream will lead on to more lucid dreams now. I want to explore the dream world, actually look around and stuff, so far i haven't gotten to.

Isn't it strange that all of our dry spells ended basically at the same time?

Originally posted by invadergarf

Isn't it strange that all of our dry spells ended basically at the same time?

yes, I think talking about it really helps.

I wish I would remember to do the things I want to do. I don't think I am yet achieving the ultimate lucidity that is possible.

Originally posted by bobvilax2000


Hey, Leo.

We have a few similar opinions here, such as it taking weeks to manifest a dream symbol about a person's life, or that you can't battle with your mind and "take control". So do you feel that self suggestion can be counter-productive if used too forcefully? If you think to yourself as falling asleep, "I WILL wake up after every dream and they WILL be long, vivid dreams.", do you think the mind will just reply, "fuck off. I do what I want." Would it be better to think of the positive life opportunities that will open up for you by LDing as you fall asleep? Are you following me? What did you use throughout your evolution in dreaming to find an understanding with your mind? Meaning, what did you use to initiate the process, what did you use to hone the process, and what did you use to master the process (If, in fact, you have mastered the process, "mastered" being relative.)?

- -Barrett

Suggestion to the Higher Mind or the Subconscious Mind can be something of a dialogue. One should not second guess one's self. Suggest what one wants to suggest the way one wants to suggest it. Certainly the Higher Mind will respond one way or another. But here one needs to be discerning. One certainly cannot receive a number of negative responses and then stubbornly continue with the same line of Suggestions.

It does need to be a dialogue. One has to Suggest, but then await the kind and quality of response. One needs to follow up on what works and abandon what doesn't work.

Well, congrats to everyone. I have tried Ev's technique before (someone called it the reverse, something-or-other technique, I don't remember), and it worked for me for a night. I too had an LD last night after 2.5 weeks of nothing. I was actually thinking about LDing, but not as an obsession. Also, I think it helped that I was sleeping on the couch last night, as the bedroom in the basement was taken, and it is too damn hot to sleep in my actual bedroom upstairs, and that I woke up at about 4 AM, after 5 hours of sleep, and immediately thought, "time to LD." I then went to sleep thinking I just woke up at the perfect time to LD, and guess what, I had one.
Basically, I thought, "I think I may be dreaming", so I did the sticking your finger through your palm technique, and I succeeded after a few seconds. It was kind of weird, though I don't remember the dream itself, I remember that when I did this, my skin resisted for a bit, and then started going inwards. Then, with a popping feeling, my finger went through. I then pulled it out of my palm, and grabbed my nose and tried breathing, and I could do this too. I was surely Lucid. Sadly, I think I woke up right after this.

I do think Ev may be on to something. I think my approach fits with his spring model. I normally don't care about lucidity, no RCs, no techniques. I prefer being aware in vivid dreams rather than be lucid. However, usually once a month, for the lucid task, I incubate a lucid dream to do the tasks.

Here's where I start questioning some things. Could it be that we have a repository of various dreams, with different motifs? Further, through incubation, do we pick and choose which dreams to experience. However, might it be possible to "deplete" all dreams related to lucidity or another category? Is there a maximum and or minimum efficiency for producing lucid dreams, efficiency*number of LDs(output) = effort to LD(input). What's the average, where is the extremes, what is optimum?

I remember for June's dream, I asked for a lucid. Later that night, a DC turns to me and says "You have about 30 seconds of dream left". Lucidity was handed to me, just like that. Typically, it only takes two days at most to get a lucid dream, for me. Dream incubation usually works the first night, for me.

Originally posted by Moonbeam


yes, I think talking about it really helps.

I wish I would remember to do the things I want to do. I don't think I am yet achieving the ultimate lucidity that is possible.

I agree, maybe talking about it kept it on our minds or something a bit more.

Well, to remember the things I want to do, I just think about it often throughout the day. As soon as I think about lucid dreaming, I think to myself, "What was it I wanted to do when I lucid dream?" and remind myself. Eventually when I do have a lucid dream my mind does the same thing and I think, "Quick, what was it I was going to do?" and remember some or all of what I wanted to do (whether I get to do however isn't always for certain).

Originally posted by PenguinLord13
Well, congrats to everyone.

Thanks! I hope I have another lucid dream soon though, don't want another dry spell. Hopefully saying that I haven't just made my mind go, "Guess what? For that attitude you're not getting one for a month!"

Originally posted by PenguinLord13+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PenguinLord13)</div>

I have tried Ev's technique before (someone called it the reverse, something-or-other technique, I don't remember), and it worked for me for a night. I too had an LD last night after 2.5 weeks of nothing. [/b]

I tried Ev's technique but it didn't seem to work. Maybe I just didn't do it properly...

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Basically, I thought, "I think I may be dreaming", so I did the sticking your finger through your palm technique, and I succeeded after a few seconds. It was kind of weird, though I don't remember the dream itself, I remember that when I did this, my skin resisted for a bit, and then started going inwards. Then, with a popping feeling, my finger went through. I then pulled it out of my palm, and grabbed my nose and tried breathing, and I could do this too. I was surely Lucid. Sadly, I think I woke up right after this.

Finger through the palm? I don't think i've read about that one, sounds interesting. I do the holding the nose thing though (first time ever I managed to try it in the last lucid dream).

I know how you feel though about waking up right after realising you were lucid, before I got to actually do anything my lucid dream ended too.

Originally posted by Distant Clone
I do think Ev may be on to something. I think my approach fits with his spring model. I normally don't care about lucidity, no RCs, no techniques. I prefer being aware in vivid dreams rather than be lucid. However, usually once a month, for the lucid task, I incubate a lucid dream to do the tasks.

Here's where I start questioning some things. Could it be that we have a repository of various dreams, with different motifs? Further, through incubation, do we pick and choose which dreams to experience. However, might it be possible to "deplete" all dreams related to lucidity or another category? Is there a maximum and or minimum efficiency for producing lucid dreams, efficiency*number of LDs(output) = effort to LD(input). What's the average, where is the extremes, what is optimum?

I remember for June's dream, I asked for a lucid. Later that night, a DC turns to me and says "You have about 30 seconds of dream left". Lucidity was handed to me, just like that. Typically, it only takes two days at most to get a lucid dream, for me. Dream incubation usually works the first night, for me.

I kind of care about lucidity, I'm disappointed when I wake up in the morning not having had a lucid dream. Maybe your method of just not trying to get a lucid dream too often would work a bit better, but for some reason for me I don't think it would work yet (I think I need a bit more experience).

I don't think I've ever had a lucid dream handed to me, but maybe certain dreams where things are happening really out of the ordinary is my mind's way of giving me a lucid dream (like one where there was huge comet in the sky, I realised straight away that I was definitely dreaming).

What exactly is dream incubation?