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      My dad ( and for that fact my mom) Says that he is a natural lucid dreamer. He says that he feels SP and fights it some times, and he's able to step into his dreams and take control. He also says that he doesn't try at all. How could that be?

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      Being a natural is just like that. When I was younger it used to be just as easy as that, stepping in and out, tweaking dreamscapes from night to night, and feeling SP. At the time I didn't even know what SP was, but I grew up and lost this natural ability...

      Now I can go lucid, but I need extreme concentration that I cannot get every night. AFAIK, its not genetic though I'm quite sure noone really knows why there are naturals.. What is known is that some people are naturals forever, while others can lose the ability. I haven't seen enough research shown to prove that one can become a natural again, but its widely known that with practice and concentration... anyone can LD.
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      How a natural lucid dreamer can easily recognize a dream sign is not luck. Their waking perception, specifically how they observe details with true inquiry rather than immediate compromise by indifference, shapes a habit of conscious that is carried into REM. The problem that non-lucid dreamers have is that either 1) their perception in REM is weak or 2) they overlook dream signs because of incorrect validation (ie. - a fish could drive a bus, really).

      For example, the Reality Test technique (wherein a person is reminded by an alarm to periodically check reality during wakefulness) is an organized method of the same quality of conscious that natural lucid dreamers possess without effort.
      If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is: Infinite. ---William Blake

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      Recently this has really been annoying me. I knew I would end up meeting someone who could naturally LD and I did less than a week ago. I have realized, like jonesn was saying, that it has to do with my level of consciousness in all of life. I'm simply not very in tune with reality even while awake. I want to make that better so I can LD more but I have a real problem giving any thought to everyday life cause it seems so boring. I'm not sure of how I might expand or increase my level of consciousness without somehow making myself want to pay close attention to everything that happens but how can I make myself that interested? ARGH its a toughy.

      Also, it might not help to have people like my brother that are so wierd they make everything seem normal. Like when my bro discribes how he can look up transvestites skirts by looking up into a mirror that comes up down below him to see up from the street below. Now anyone saying that, since it makes entirely no sense and when I imagine it in my head and visualize it its like taking acid, but if people say stuff like that around me all the time how am I supposed to realize when something is out-of-place enough to be a dream? Its like my real life is just as wierd so its hard to differentiate. That added to the fact that I pay so little attention to life that I don't remember what I did yesterday without hard thought. Any advice on any of this stuff?
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      Haha I just found out my DAD has been having Lucid Dreams too by asking him the dat before yesterday I asked him: ''Dad, do you sometimes have a Dream where you KNOW you are Dreaming?'' and he said ''yeah that sometimes happens''


      I pretty much remember having had Lucid Dreams as far as my memory goes back. That'd have to be like the Dreams I had when I was 5 years old ( yeah believe it or not I have a profoundly long, Photographic, Crystal Clear, always accessable Long term Memory)
      Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
      among other teachers taught me

      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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