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      Hey everyone,

      I have just finished reading an awesome book by Jane Roberts. From the early sixties to when she recently died she channeled an entity named, "Seth". One of her first books she wrote with Seth's guidance was "Seth, Dreams and Projections of Consciousness". This has been the first book I have read by "spirit" on the topic of dreams and it has been most illuminating.

      One thing I thought I would share was a technique for having better dream recall. I hear you thinking, "I've heard it all" which is natural, maybe you have heard this, but I hadn't and it is working amazingly.

      It basically involves using self-suggestion in order to awaken after each dreaming period (for Seth says we dream ALL the time, and R.E.M. is just a time when the dreaming self comes closer to the waking self). Waking up directly after a dream makes detailed recall and recording a hell of a lot easier.

      As you feel you are about to fall asleep repeat the following suggestion with as much focus and as many times as you can:

      "I will wake up directly after each of my first five dreaming periods and record them immediately." Beautifully simple and effective. In my experience, improving dream recall has brought me the most success with Lucidity.

      This technique also reveals the layered nature of the subconscious; over a period of time you can compare "dream one" of the night with "dream one" of another night, "dream two" with another "dream two" and so on.

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      Self-suggestion is already a really well known technique to increase dream recall and lucid dreams.

      So I'm guessing it works well?

      If you could I'd like you to fill out a survey about recall in my signature.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrox View Post
      Self-suggestion is already a really well known technique to increase dream recall and lucid dreams.
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      I know self-suggestion is well known but I had not heard of specifically suggesting that you will wake up after each of your five dream periods (R.E.M. cycles) and record them immediately, and I've read a lot. Using this technique I have consitantly recorded five dreams each night. While my recall was good (due to discipline) before, it is quite phenominal now.

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      Have you ever been able to remember your individual dreams one after the other from these periods, without waking up in between them?

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      Have you ever been able to remember your individual dreams one after the other from these periods, without waking up in between them?
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      Ummm, I'm not quite sure what you mean. If by "these periods" you are reffering to the nights using the suggestions, I specifically request that I wake up so that's a bit of a redundant one. If you meant the period before I used the suggestions, then yes, I have been able to remember multiple dreams from the one night without waking up between them but not as vividly/honestly and generally no more than three.

      According to Seth, once you gain proficiency using the suggestion it does not tax your energy levels or cause you to loose sleep and you can indeed train yourself to record your dreams using a dictaphone/recorder without "waking up" as we know it. I am working towards that... I think that would be a prefferable method of dream recall.

      It is good to wake up after each dream because it is so fresh. After recording each dream you simply re-enforce the suggestion as you fall back asleep. I have used this technique less than a week now and it is already beginning to smooth out. I have found that due to increased memory of events that the motivation to record them is much higher, as opposed to faint glimmerings of activity that hardly seem worthwhile mentioning. I think that ALL dreams are worth mentioning (to the Ego) but may not seem so due to distortion from the Ego Itself and it's poor, discriminatory memory.

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      Have you ever been able to remember your individual dreams one after the other from these periods, without waking up in between them?
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      ^^^I mean the five dream periods discussed above my post. The stages of sleep in other words.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Daen View Post
      As you feel you are about to fall asleep repeat the following suggestion with as much focus and as many times as you can:

      "I will wake up directly after each of my first five dreaming periods and record them immediately." Beautifully simple and effective. In my experience, improving dream recall has brought me the most success with Lucidity.

      This technique also reveals the layered nature of the subconscious; over a period of time you can compare "dream one" of the night with "dream one" of another night, "dream two" with another "dream two" and so on.

      Dae,

      Rob.
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      It basically comes down to MILD (Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams) where you also use Self-suggestion to set the Intention to wake up after each individual dream and remember & record it.

      However what you posted here is a more specific technique. Something to hold on to. Sounds more practical than the Tutorial I read on MILD here. The problem most people have with this technique is how to make good, quality Selfsuggestions that will actually penetrate the subconcious Mind. I myself still have to get my head around ''how to make such self-suggestions that are actually effective''.
      Well thanks for sharing. Good thinking
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      Actually, I was absolutely correct, I had heard it all, and this was one of the first things of all that I'd heard. This is basically the crux of the MILD technique, in which you repeat something along the lines of "I will wake up after every dream period, and remember my dreams."

      It's even in the MILD tutorial here:

      http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...showtopic=2047
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      The worst part of this is that it's impossible for me to do this since my mind needs to wander to fall asleep.

      I hate it so much.
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      Quote Originally Posted by megabenman View Post
      The worst part of this is that it's impossible for me to do this since my mind needs to wander to fall asleep.

      I hate it so much.
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      I think I know what you mean.
      Is it like when you focus your attention on Lucidity, you feel as if it occupies your Mind too much and you feel like just ''letting go'' of all thoughts to sink away into sleep? Am I right?
      Well same goes for me. Many times I just thought ''screw it'' and gave up: letting go off all concious thoughts and allowing my subconcious thoughts to wander taking me to DreamLand.This would off course result in a non-lucid Dream as I lost Conciousness.

      The trick with this is to let your Mind wander, which is indeed nececairy to enter deep states and eventually sleep, yet passively maintain your conciousness. Not too much effort at all, just ''hanging in there'' while you allow your dreaming Mind to take you into a Dream.

      It's tough stuff but it aquires training and you WILL progress and eventually succeed. I did too.Not there yet, but I made loads of progress. With WILDing then, but the same goes for MILD or any other ILD-technique; too much mental effort will keep you from sleep, too little and you'll fall asleep Unconcious. So JUST the right level of effort, yet not too much, would be the perfect state of Mind to stay concious while easily Falling asleep and entering a Dream.
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      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raylin View Post
      Actually, I was absolutely correct, I had heard it all, and this was one of the first things of all that I'd heard. This is basically the crux of the MILD technique, in which you repeat something along the lines of "I will wake up after every dream period, and remember my dreams."

      It's even in the MILD tutorial here:

      http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...showtopic=2047
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      Raylin? Had I said you were not correct? Or hadn't "heard it all before?" Was there really a need for italics? Had you even posted something in response to my message? Are you also, "Pyrox"? Or are you just thinking aloud?

      Whatever the case, I checked the link you provided and it does indeed have the technique I described. I am deeply sorry for wasting your valuable time. Lol.

      As to those who mentioned having difficulty giving themselves effective suggestion, I had the same problem after trying for sometime to achieve a significant state of auto-hypnosis. I decided to not try too hard at all with this technique as Seth said it was only necissary for you to believe it and say it to yourself just before sleep, in a relaxed state. Nothing too onorous, it still works. It's just about intention and reinforcement. If you assume that if you say the suggestions ten times it will "work". I think my trust in what this "entity" had to say helped a lot too.

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      Heh, yeah, sorry. I'd been reading a few too many Leo posts and picked up a little of his attitude. However, yes, the italics were necessary, and I'm sure you'd prefer italics to caps.
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