Thread: Cracking The Lucid Barrier, The Easy Way

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Why do you have a fear of improving your vision?
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I'm not sure if you're joking or not. I did mean I'm using EFT to improve my vision and get over my fear of women (one secret to good writing is learning to spot and eliminate vagueness of syntax like that, so thank you).

And even if you were joking, it is incidentally a good question. I don't know why I'm afraid of having good vision, but every time my vision improves, I get really nervous, I feel something weird in my stomach - I just feel really uncomfortable. For me, being near-sighted is more comfortable than seeing normally. How weird is that?

The Purple Knight

Originally Posted by chevalier_violet

I'm not sure if you're joking or not. I did mean I'm using EFT to improve my vision and get over my fear of women (one secret to good writing is learning to spot and eliminate vagueness of syntax like that, so thank you).

And even if you were joking, it is incidentally a good question. I don't know why I'm afraid of having good vision, but every time my vision improves, I get really nervous, I feel something weird in my stomach - I just feel really uncomfortable. For me, being near-sighted is more comfortable than seeing normally. How weird is that?

The Purple Knight
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Well that was my lame attempt at a joke; sorry if it wasn't that funny.

I am near-sighted now, altho I wasn't when I was younger. I started doing a lot of really close up (microscope) work in my 20's and that's when it happened. I don't know if you have always been near-sighted or not, but maybe it is partly the fact you are attached to the glasses . I have tried to wear contacts occasionally, and besides the fact they bother my eyes, I kind of like wearing my glasses and I miss them. Strange I know. So maybe you are not weird either. When you are near-sighted, you can see really well close up, so it can be an adavantage. (Also, I hesitate to mention this--but I seriously doubt that EFT can fix your vision. Near-sightedness is a combination of environment and genetic tendency, and our eyeballs actually become a different shape. I am not against EFT as a method, and altho I have been lazy to learn about it, a prominent doctor whom I admire recommends it for all kinds of things, and I have a book about it that I should read and try. But for mental things maybe, not physical things like eyeball-shape.)

P.S. A Purple Knight should definitely not have a fear of women. Many women would love to meet a Purple Knight.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Well that was my lame attempt at a joke; sorry if it wasn't that funny.

I am near-sighted now, altho I wasn't when I was younger. I started doing a lot of really close up (microscope) work in my 20's and that's when it happened. I don't know if you have always been near-sighted or not, but maybe it is partly the fact you are attached to the glasses . I have tried to wear contacts occasionally, and besides the fact they bother my eyes, I kind of like wearing my glasses and I miss them. Strange I know. So maybe you are not weird either. When you are near-sighted, you can see really well close up, so it can be an adavantage. (Also, I hesitate to mention this--but I seriously doubt that EFT can fix your vision. Near-sightedness is a combination of environment and genetic tendency, and our eyeballs actually become a different shape. I am not against EFT as a method, and altho I have been lazy to learn about it, a prominent doctor whom I admire recommends it for all kinds of things, and I have a book about it that I should read and try. But for mental things maybe, not physical things like eyeball-shape.)

P.S. A Purple Knight should definitely not have a fear of women. Many women would love to meet a Purple Knight.
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Your PS just got instantaneously sigged... it was like read copy paste WHAM! You're right. I just went on a date, and it went pretty well, but I didn't kiss her and that sexual tension was building up, so it would have been kinda nice.

I only got nearsighted at the age of 20... or was it 21. Late enough that I think I can get it back. You know what? Scientists don't really know what causes near-sightedness. Most probable answer is that many factors contribute, so it could turn out that some emotional factor is the primary one. Take that factor out and I'll be seeing fine. Besides, I can feel the exhaustion and energy waste coming from my eyes... I know there are improvements I can make there, whether I regain 20/20 or not.

By the way, being near-sighted does not help in seeing close up. It blurs all vision equally, but the blur is less important close up where objects already appear in a lot of detail.

As to your point that eye refraction and myopia is caused by the changing shape of the eye, that's like saying that soreness in your shoulder is caused by tense muscles. Sure, it caused by tense muscles, but that's not to say that we can't do something to relax those muscles, and the soreness may go away. In the same way, sure the eye shape changes, but there are a lot of things we can do to change eyeshape BACK to the way it was.

In some cases it may be entirely genetic, but in others, I don't think it is. I found myself myopic after sitting in the library for a month straight writing 72 pages of history papers (11 essays in total, one a 25 pager - that's a load of work cuz each history essay takes a long time to research.) I also 1.) went through a rocky section with my girlfriend, 2.) packed everything for moving, 3.) got screwed over by the new tenants so we had to move two weeks early during finals, 4.) got in a big fight with my roommates from which we still haven't recovered two years later.

Next thing I knew, I was myopic. Hmmm, was it genetic? Possibly. But it seems more likely that I'm about about as genetically predisposed to see clearly as I am to walk.

I highly recommend this book: Take off your glasses and see : how to heal your eyesight and expand your insight, Liberman, Jacob. It's one of the most thought-provoking books I've ever read, the guy makes excellent arguments about the nature of vision and vision loss. He links a loss of emotional acuity with visual acuity. It sounds really surprising when put like that, but I think the guy makes a great case for an emotional factor.

Don't believe eye-doctors or anybody when people say "we know why people become myopic." Eye doctors have been viciously debating this question in recent years - there's very little consensus about it,. Study after study points in different directions. There are actually studies studying the studies that say there is no trend. We don't know for certain WHY people become myopic. Sure the eye-shape changes, but that doesn't mean very much. That's like saying "thoughts are composed of electric charges." I'm sure they are, but that doesn't mean we understand how the charges interact to form thoughts. Now that's the real question I want answered. Similarly, I want to know "why did my eye change shape in the first place?" "how I can change my eye-shape back" - if it changed once, it can change again, right?

More to the point, if our broken bones heal, if our minds heal, if our organs heal, if our brain heals, we should not totally and uncritically believe anyone who declares that our eyes cannot, in any conceiveable case, heal. Wearing glasses could prevent certain eyes from healing. Glasses could be the cargo rather than the crew. More and more eye-doctors say, in many cases, a traditional pair of glasses only deepen the problem and address no real, solveable causes of vision decay.

If a doctor said, "your leg is broken, you're going to need a crutch for the rest of your life," you would quite rightly leave to find another doctor, never to return. Why is it when an eye doctor says, "your eyes aren't working right, you're going to need a pair of glasses for the rest of your life." people keep coming back for stronger and stronger glasses?!

I seriously don't know. I'm a bit extreme about this. I will never wear glasses. Ever. They're a stupid idea, they worsen the problem rather than creating the conditions for improving it. I won't wear them. If my eyes never get better, which in any case they will, I still will have saved hundreds of dollars and hours of time at the eye doctor's, plus time searching high and low for glasses I will no doubt lose. On the other hand, if I do heal my eyes, I will have done something amazing that nobody thought possible, I will be living my very short life the way I want to live it. I will be living a dream. I'm not afraid of being a bit short-sighted, I'm afraid of not even trying to improve things.

Thanks for the ideas. I think today I will actually learn the basic formula. I too am planning on using EFT to improve vision, be less she around girls. I also really want to try improving my acne, which would give me more confidence. And of course Lucid Dreaming, definite goal.

I think my problems are recall, concentrating on dreaming, maintaining stability, and not obsesssing over getting lucid. Would "even though I have trouble remembering my dreams, I completely and fully accept myself" etc. be the way to do it?[/b]

You're welcome. Thanks for letting me know that I'm helping.

You notice the trend here, this is why you and I are having trouble lucid dreaming. I'm doing the same thing: I post about a tool like EFT and there are about 47 things I find more important to use EFT on than Lucid Dreaming. I'm not saying that's bad prioritization, it's quite right. But it goes to confirm a little maxim of mine: you can't LD until your life is in order. You just won't be able to do it regularly, it will be too exhausting, too grueling. Your will is directed elsewhere - it's directed toward getting your vision, your women, your acne.

Solve these problems, clean off your slate and LD will be a lot easier.

Yes, that's a perfectly fine way of putting the affirmation. I can't say FOR YOU what will work and what won't. You will feel it when it's good, you will know it addresses something inside you. You will be able to tell. I can't say how with words, but I'm not worried, you will know when you're attacking the problem from the right angle.

OK. I have been using this, and i must admit, on an emotional level, it does seem to work! How this can be applied to LDing, i'm not sure. Someone should try it out, and report back to this thread, but thank you Chevalier Violet for this valuable technique.[/b]

You learned about the technique from me? If I pointed you toward EFT, thanks for letting me know you find it useful. Isn't EFT great? It is totally changing my life, and it's so efficient.

You've hit upon a main weakness of this thread: I can't possibly know what weaknesses to attack, what to say to attack them best. People just have to find what will work inside themselves, because it may be different for each person.

I think EFT has two applications to LD. 1.) overcoming fears of LD itself. LD is new, it's frightening, it's captivating. Fear is a natural thing to feel, as is shame, or anger at oneself for not succeeding right away. There are a lot of ways to apply it. The hardest thing is that, I know in my life that a nightmare that I don't remember has really been blocking my ability to LD. Well, I can't say to people, "just affirm that the scraggly mountain won't eat you" and you'll be LDing in notime. Each person's dreams are extremely personal and subjective. But I can say, maybe particular dreams have hindered you, or maybe you're afraid and a quick, effective way to move past that fear. Well, here it is.

2.) My maxim is that you need to clean your slate before you can LD. At least, it's much easier that way. Once your life is in order, the loose ends are tied up, the worries are taken care of, LDing is much much easier. You will simply have more will to throw around, since will can be occupied and preoccupied with old memories, worries, cares, duties, and responsibilities. Clean up your emotional life, and it is easier to be concentrated and to focus your will toward what you desire. You can have all the techniques and desire and time you want. If you're worried sick about something you are not going to LD regularly. It's just not possible. This is a tool that can attack the problem of LD from all sides, and I think it can win. No small thing.