First Real Ld...and It Wasnt Fun

[art vandelay]

ok, long story short, ive been in LD for a coupel years. ive recently taken a break and have had a few moments of exiting the body and moments of lucidity but usually they never go anywhere. last night i was in a dream, started getting suspcious of my surroundings...next thing i know im in my bedroom (that i lived in a year ago...so i knew that was wrong) and im having exit phenomena (whooshing sound, rising limbs, ect) and next thing i know i wake up in the wrong bed in the wrong room and i know its a dream. ive never been in this state before. first thing i notice is how odd my eyes and limbs feel, then i keep looking at the clock and the time keeps changing every time i look at it so now im 99% sure this is a dream. thing is, i didnt feel i could really do anything cool. i couldnt seem to fly and i was still scared of stupid things like waking my mom up. so naturally i jumped out (through) my window and i woke up again (false awakening) back in my room. i realize again this is a dream, try to turn off all my electronics (stereo, tv) that are blasting with no such luck. then i have another false awakening and by now and getting kind of disturbed feeling like im trapped in my dreams...but i continue to experiment and put my head in my rotating celing fan and JESUS did it hurt! which confused me cuz i didnt know you were supposed to feel pain. then i try to fly again and couldnt. then i didnt want to be in my house anymore so i left through the window again with no such luck and was basically back in my room. i tried summoning people and couldnt do that either and eventually i woke up. i tried the spin technique and that did clear up my surroundings and solidify them...but i am confused as to my lack of abilities. i couldnt seem to change the scenery, fly, or make people appear. i suppose a lot has to do with this being my first LD and it was kind of disturbing because ive never really been in that demension before. what can i do next time to have a better experience?

[Jr_Worley]

Sounds like you where semi lucid because you where scared to wake up your mom but you where aware your dreaming The way i made the spin trick work is i would close my eyes and think of a place i wanted to go and spin when i opened my eyes i was there o and people say you cant feel pain but thats a load of bs you can make it to where you don't feel pain but you CAN feel pain in dreams hell a couple dreams i had ago i go a wooden poll shoved threw my stomach by a demon and damn it hurt... worst pain i have ever felt anyways some lucids are awesome.... Some are not

[Marvo]

You can't do much actually. It's just a question about time. More LDs is more experience, which is more control. And grats on your first LD

[art vandelay]

im not sure exactly as to my "level" of lucidity. i mean, i obviously knew i was dreaming enough to try LD things like flying and such. i think i just couldnt accept the uninhibitedness at the time, like it was too overwhelming to imagine i can do WHATEVER i want with no consequence. i dont know how i got the balls up to jump out my window. one time when i jumped out of my window with the intent of leaving my house i dont remember actually GOING anywhere, but i do remember seeing the outside image of some house ive never seen before. i hope with the next oe i can center myself better.

[FreeOne]

well maybe cause you were not totaly sure it was a dream, that made you think that i could be real. And if it could be real you would feel pain. so maybe it was just the placebo. Ive fallen 200ft and hit the ground in lucid dreams and havent felt any pain. Oh and i think the lucid dream would have been better for ya if you just used the door. the window doesnt seem to like you lol

[skywatcher]

Where else but on a dreaming forum would you find such a hilarious statement: but i continue to experiment and put my head in my rotating celing fan and JESUS did it hurt[/b] LOL! But seriously, my first LD it was the same; I knew I was dreaming but was afraid of waking people up. I think it's just because you're not used to being lucid. With more experience, as soon as you're lucid, you'll have the confidence needed to do what you want more easily. Good luck.

[Howie]

We can have good dream and bad dreams, even if they are lucid. It is still your manifestation. But the problem with many lucid dreams that go badly do manifest. Things become exaggerated because they are focused on. But it is just an experience. All it takes is confidence to change it. However that is often easier said than done when you are in that actual experience. I hate to use this analogy, and I don't know if you can even relate (I hope kinda not) But it is like a bad acid trip. ---It is a frame of mind.

[art vandelay]

yes, i can relate quite well. actually, certain parts of the LD experience felt like a mushroom trip i had where i felt like i was in this completely empty meaningless dream world.

[gonnabeathinker]

Just out of extreme curiosity. Is that George from Seinfeld in you picture?

[Asclepius]

I think there is a learning curve with Lucidity and Dream Control. A big step is to recognize its a dream. But after that you have to really understand what it means. Part of our mind is still dreaming, and its easy to get caught in the dream logic - e.g. these people in the dream are people not just dream characters. So much of the dream environment is based on beliefs which can be stronger than thoughts. (e.g. if its a dream I should be able to fly). Good advice is to experiment with different tasks that you believe are easy. (e.g. it was easy for me to believe I could fly, but hard to believe objects are not solid). As you get confidence your control increases.

[RetepNamenots]

Why did you stick your head in the ceiling fan

[art vandelay]

i kind of just did it...i guess i didnt think it would hurt...but it did. it even bashed me in my front teeth, it felt like it would in waking life.

[Otter]

The key to doing something in your dream is to believe you can do it. Believe it can happen. It's a little confusing and hard to adjust to this new "logic" the first couple times, but eventually you'll get it! It's like anything: practice makes perfect.

[pellucid]

Becoming lucid is the first part. Once you're there, you need to be able to control your movements. It helps if you have a strong reason for wanting to lucid dream so that when you actually enter a lucid state you remember why you're there and don't have to waste time thinking "gee, what do I do now?" Along with having a strongly defined purpose, the method of creating experiences in the lucid state takes some practice. If you want to be on a spaceship flying through hyperspace, you have to actually 'feel' as if you are already there. Imagine the experience down to the tiniest detail, like what the sounds are around you, what sensations of motion, what visuals you can see, and so on. Like Otter said, you have to believe it can happen, and more than that you have to feel it actually happening, even if it isn't. In other words fake it until you make it.