Thread: How To Fall Asleep In 10 Minutes Or Less

I'll try this tonight!

Btw. Burns, is that your cat? Always wondered... ´

EDIT: Why is it good to strengthen your eyes? Is it good for reading or what?

This seems to me like a decent self-hypnosis induction technique.

I think we've stumbled on to something.

This is very different than what I originally thought, but logically seems to me to be even better. It's like false REM, however overexagerated = more efficient. Do you think that your technique and mine could be the same thing, just... different?

I'll try it this way tonight.

Originally Posted by BohmaN

Btw. Burns, is that your cat? Always wondered... [/b]

Yep, my avatar is my cat, Titus. And my sig are both of my cats, Cloud and Titus.

Originally Posted by pj

This seems to me like a decent self-hypnosis induction technique.
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Good observation pj. I hadn't even thought of that, even though at one time I used to really be into hypnosis. It has all of the characteristics of a self hypnosis induction technique. Add a metronome or some music with a steady beat in the background to provide a rhythm to move the eyes to, and a soft voice with suggestions of becoming more and more relaxed, and going deeper and deeper, and this would probably put just about anyone under. Thanks for your comment.

Originally Posted by pj

I think we've stumbled on to something.

This is very different than what I originally thought, but logically seems to me to be even better. It's like false REM, however overexagerated = more efficient. Do you think that your technique and mine could be the same thing, just... different?

I'll try it this way tonight.
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Could be like a false REM, not sure. All I know that it has really helped me fall asleep fast for the past 3 weeks, and now is starting to produce images after about 10 minutes, when I am able to stay awake that long. So for now I am going to try to follow the images and see where they lead. Thanks for your comment.

This sounds interesting- I'll try it.

Usually I fall asleep fairly quickly, but I might be able to induce Lucidity using this...

My eyes are naturally dry- anything I can do to moisturize them? Should i do this exercise with a wet/damp cloth?

SNOOZE FOODS
These are foods high in the sleep-inducing amino acid tryptophan:

Dairy products: cottage cheese, cheese, milk
Soy products: soy milk, tofu, soybean nuts
Seafood
Meats
Poultry
Whole grains
Beans
Rice
Hummus
Lentils
Hazelnuts, Peanuts
Eggs
Sesame seeds, sunflower seeds

I tried this last night but all that happened was that my eyes got extremely tired, but my body didn't. Though I didn't have any problem with keeping my eyes closed =)

Here is last night's experience:

I started to do the excersises, and by the time I got to rotating my eyes right, I began to hear this buzzing/beeping sound, high pitched. Some images began to form, very vague, and then dissappeared. I continued with the exercises until finishe, and then did them with my eyes closed. To my knowledge, I was still awake. So I began to count myself to sleep. By the time I hit "30" for the second time, I was asleep (I think) and was in a bed' instantly aware that it was a dream.

The lucid wasn't too exciting, but I got to fly on wings of fire

So, that was with your technique and someone elses (counting to sleep)... What would you consider it to be; a Dild?

I tried this last night, and I did feel very tired after I was done with the complete exercise, however not quite tired enough to fall asleep. I finished very quickly though. Can you say how long it takes for the entire exercise? (10 minutes?)

At the 1 second per repetition rate he suggested, it should last just about two minutes.

This didn't work for me the first time I tried, but when I tried it last night and actually remembered not to do the reps to fast, I managed to get to sleep in a few minutes, even though I normally take about a half hour or more to get to sleep.

Originally Posted by Kyhaar

Here is last night's experience:

I started to do the excersises, and by the time I got to rotating my eyes right, I began to hear this buzzing/beeping sound, high pitched. Some images began to form, very vague, and then dissappeared. I continued with the exercises until finishe, and then did them with my eyes closed. To my knowledge, I was still awake. So I began to count myself to sleep. By the time I hit "30" for the second time, I was asleep (I think) and was in a bed' instantly aware that it was a dream.

The lucid wasn't too exciting, but I got to fly on wings of fire

So, that was with your technique and someone elses (counting to sleep)... What would you consider it to be; a Dild?
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What I would consider that to be is brilliant Kyhaar, to improvise the way you did in combining a couple of different methods to achieve the result you did. That's exactly what I was hoping for when I posted this, for more ideas on how to improve on it, because I am still learning new things myself as I test it each night. As my eyes muscles have become stronger from doing the exercises, I am no longer getting tired and falling to sleep in the middle of the exercises like I had been for the previous 3 weeks. Instead, I am entering a very relaxed state in which images are starting to flow and in which I can sometimes even remember dreams I had the previous night that I had not recorded. I am also experimenting more while doing the exercises with my eyes closed, by feeling my consciousness shift in to the top of my head when I look up, and then feeling my consciousness shift down into my throat or heart region when I look down, concentrating on my chakras when doing this. If I had to name this method I would probably call it the EMM (Eye Movement Method) if there is not already something by that name. Thanks for the feedback.

Originally Posted by ALovelyWay2Burn

I tried this last night, and I did feel very tired after I was done with the complete exercise, however not quite tired enough to fall asleep. I finished very quickly though. Can you say how long it takes for the entire exercise? (10 minutes?)
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It should probably take anywhere from 2 to 10 minutes depending up how fast you do the repetitions. If you take 1 second for each movement that would be 1 second to look up, 1 second to look down, one second to look to the right, and one second to look to the left you would be done with the first couple of exercises in 2 minutes. What works the best for me though is not what I do when doing the exercises with my eyes open, but what I do with them after closing my eyes. Feel free to experiment with different techniques and combine other techniqes with this and let us know what works the best for you ALovelyWay2Burn. Thanks for the feeback.

When people say they see images when their eyes are closed, do they mean that they see as they do if their eyes are open? Or are they just imaging it "vividly"?

I will definately give this some thought. I'm trying to get myselfback into LDing. If anything else, it'll probably help me fall asleep faster in general.

Originally Posted by Burns

Yep, my avatar is my cat, Titus. And my sig are both of my cats, Cloud and Titus.
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Is it just coincidence that those are the names are 2 main characters in different Final Fantasy games Burns? lol.

Should the exercises be done in the dark, or are you allowed to see the room above your head: like the fan, or the air con vent etc

I like cats too, I have a pet tabby, name is Claude.
Ill see if I can find a pic of him and use him as avater...

Originally Posted by person

Should the exercises be done in the dark, or are you allowed to see the room above your head: like the fan, or the air con vent etc
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You can do the exercises in an environment you want want person-person. Some of my best out of body experiences and lucid dreams have occurred in the middle of day during naps I used to take when I used to work the afternoon shift.

My second night using the technique was much like the first, except last night I slowed down the repititions considerably. That made a difference, as I remember forgetting what I was doing and having to start over (because of how tired it was making me) and I'm pretty sure I didn't even finish the complete exercise. I forgot to mention this in my last posts, but last night and the night before produced vibrations. Both times in under ten minutes, just like the label says. It usually takes me closer to 45 minutes to produce vibrations, less with reverse blinking.

I tried this last night but just confused my face and so I stopped because it was too much to think about, but what if one did this eye exercise and reverse blinked (blunk?) at the same time? But like I said, when I tried it my face got confused, so it didn't work for me.

Before I say how it went last night, let me say this. I stopped doing LD things last May and have not even touched the topic again until last night.

I went to bed and waited about 5-10 minutes before starting this technique thinking that since I haven't done anything LD related in the past 10 months, nothing would probably happen. I was wrong. Also, I did the
whole thing with my eyes closed the entire time.

2 things happened which made me happy.

#1
When I got to the circles, I started to see some buildings that looked white so I tried to pull them closer to me. It was actually working which surprised me b/c in the past, I had a lot of trouble doing that. A little bit after the final set of circles, everything, white or not, started becoming wavy and I could feel my eyes moving rapidly (REM I assume). The problem was my eyes were opening and I was sort of forcing them shut but having trouble doing so. Eventually, things (meaning my heart beating faster, the REM) came to a normal state.

I don't know if I should've checked at this point to see if I was actually dreaming, but it didn't FEEL like I was dreaming and I was still hearing the noises outside and in the hallway (I'm in college so of course a lot of people are still up at 1 am) so I assumed I was still awake and just tried to go to sleep.

#2
I fell asleep within minutes of ending #1 which is a fast amount of time for me.

Other animals tend to sit with their eyes open, till they CANNOT keep them up no more...

Learn from nature!

BTW: Using any "unused" muscles, seems to help as you described in the first post in this thread.

Thanks for sharing!

Wow, I will definitly try your technique. I need a way to quickly fall asleep, and if this will help me WILD easier that's great because I really want to WILD, but don't really feel like spending my precious sleepytime. And this strengthens your eyes? What more could I want!

I tried this, but didn't work so well. I did it too fast, I think, and my eyes got tired and droopy, so that I really wanted to close them, but I didn't fall asleep. REverse blinking puts me in a very similar state, I think it's a similar exercise. Thanks anyway, I'll keep on trying


On the cat sub-conversation: I love cats! They look best when they're asleep Yours are nice Burns

Originally Posted by Lord

I tried this, but didn't work so well. I did it too fast, I think, and my eyes got tired and droopy, so that I really wanted to close them, but I didn't fall asleep. REverse blinking puts me in a very similar state, I think it's a similar exercise. Thanks anyway, I'll keep on trying
On the cat sub-conversation: I love cats! They look best when they're asleep Yours are nice Burns
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What is reverse blinking?

Reverse blinking