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      Quote Originally Posted by NightmareOnElmStreet View Post
      THAT my friend, is called a WBTB.
      It's not WBTB, it's DEILD. You have to FULLY get up in WBTB.
      In a world where darkness is fear, there's always that light at the end of the tunnel.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shaderem X View Post
      It's not WBTB, it's DEILD. You have to FULLY get up in WBTB.
      Well it's not really set in stone that you have to get up think about the words used for the acronym.

      WAKE BACK TO BED. So you WAKE UP and GO BACK TO BED. The tutorial states that you should be up for 30+ minutes, but it's just guidelines as to what you need to do. If you really want to be technical you could say that WBTB is the same as WILD these are just labels for sets of information no need to take it as law.

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      I am yet to try this but seems like a good idea, definately promising considering it will trigger a slight awakening to pull the covers back over.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      Well it's not really set in stone that you have to get up think about the words used for the acronym.

      WAKE BACK TO BED. So you WAKE UP and GO BACK TO BED. The tutorial states that you should be up for 30+ minutes, but it's just guidelines as to what you need to do. If you really want to be technical you could say that WBTB is the same as WILD these are just labels for sets of information no need to take it as law.
      I don't think there's need for such a reaction. There's quite a difference between the two.
      In a world where darkness is fear, there's always that light at the end of the tunnel.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shaderem X View Post
      I don't think there's need for such a reaction. There's quite a difference between the two.
      Oh sorry did it look like I was yelling? I was just stressing those words. And no there is not "quite a difference between the two." Get with it.

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      Exclamation Omglolwtfroflmaogtfostfu!!!!!

      Fordy??? It's Herlihy!!!

      You gave me this advice on friday last week, You said that following the method would give "Clear dreams". I liked the sound of that, and tried it that night - to no avail. I tried it again on the weekend - also with no results. I was pretty annoyed that i couldn't get it working, so i roamed the internet for information on "Clear dreams". One search led to another, and eventually i was searching for "Lucid dreaming". I stumbled upon this site. I have read the info on Lucid dreaming and frankly it sounds much better then "clear dreams". I'm trying other methods for attaining Lucidness now, thanks to this site. You're method didn't work for me, but thats because you didn't explain it to me properly. You said to leave the cover for your bed at the end of the bed, or just leave it hanging off slightly. But on your first post you say you shouldn't have a cover at all. Although you seem to go back to your old theory a post later.

      My theory on this method: If you have a double/queen size bed, have enough of the covers hanging over the bottem of the bed so that the end of the covers touch the floor. Then all you should do is attach some sort of weight to the covers so that they can only keep slipping off, and not get pulled up.
      Alternatively you could just sleep on one side of the bed and have half of the covers over you, with the other half all over the floor. I tried this and the covers fell off alright, but i didn't attain lucidness. (Although i admit i did get a moderately more clear dream after waking up and going back to sleep)

      Either way, i'll try this new version of your method, hopefully it gives 100% success.
      See you at school.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheIronKnuckle View Post
      Fordy??? It's Herlihy!!!

      You gave me this advice on friday last week, You said that following the method would give "Clear dreams". I liked the sound of that, and tried it that night - to no avail. I tried it again on the weekend - also with no results. I was pretty annoyed that i couldn't get it working, so i roamed the internet for information on "Clear dreams". One search led to another, and eventually i was searching for "Lucid dreaming". I stumbled upon this site. I have read the info on Lucid dreaming and frankly it sounds much better then "clear dreams". I'm trying other methods for attaining Lucidness now, thanks to this site. You're method didn't work for me, but thats because you didn't explain it to me properly. You said to leave the cover for your bed at the end of the bed, or just leave it hanging off slightly. But on your first post you say you shouldn't have a cover at all. Although you seem to go back to your old theory a post later.

      My theory on this method: If you have a double/queen size bed, have enough of the covers hanging over the bottem of the bed so that the end of the covers touch the floor. Then all you should do is attach some sort of weight to the covers so that they can only keep slipping off, and not get pulled up.
      Alternatively you could just sleep on one side of the bed and have half of the covers over you, with the other half all over the floor. I tried this and the covers fell off alright, but i didn't attain lucidness. (Although i admit i did get a moderately more clear dream after waking up and going back to sleep)

      Either way, i'll try this new version of your method, hopefully it gives 100% success.
      See you at school.
      Okay say this is your bed | | Now let X be you and D be your covers.

      |D X|

      So you are on one side of the bed sort of and your covers are on the other side next to but not on you. Now once you fall alseep you may get cold from the temperature change during the night causing you to wake up. Once you have woken up grab the covers next to you and pull them on top of you so you are warm again and go back to sleep. This is the method he was getting at.

      This causes you to wake up cause you are cold pull the covers back on and go back to bed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      Okay say this is your bed | | Now let X be you and D be your covers.

      |D X|

      So you are on one side of the bed sort of and your covers are on the other side next to but not on you. Now once you fall alseep you may get cold from the temperature change during the night causing you to wake up. Once you have woken up grab the covers next to you and pull them on top of you so you are warm again and go back to sleep. This is the method he was getting at.

      This causes you to wake up cause you are cold pull the covers back on and go back to bed.
      actually what i meant was: | dX|D

      the small d is where you only have a little bit of the covers on you and the "D" is where the majority of the covers will be, piled on the floor. In your sleep the covers will fall off, thus making you cold.

      Although |D X| would work as well.

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      I already dont have a problem waking up in bed nightly, so the technique seems redundant in my case.
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      I slept with my fan on high and it got really cold, but I just had a dream about being cold. It was vivid though. But not lucid.
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      Quote Originally Posted by gguru1 View Post
      I already dont have a problem waking up in bed nightly, so the technique seems redundant in my case.
      This is just a general comment, not necessarily about this "technique": When it comes to LDing, redundancy can be your best friend.

      Redundancy = positive reinforcement.

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      man how am I gonna do that if I live in brazil :O


      Well, at least I'm not in mexico or the like. If so, keeping the sheets on and wake up sweating would be the way
      ~Kromoh

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      It doesn't neccessarily have to be a cold room, I think. If you're used to sleeping with the covers on, it may help you stay awake by having them off.

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