WILD attempts - help

**Caliban44** · 07-08-2007 06:36 PM

Skip the following if you're not interested in my story

In the spring, me and my best friend both discovered lucid dreaming, and it was all we thought about. We read everything we could, tried every method, exhausted ourselves in every way trying to LD, but there was no success for either of us. We forgot about it.

Recently, we've both been having DILD's. We don't know why (my money's on the reduced stress from the end of school.) While my friend has noted it as a nice piece of closure for a pursuit he lost interest in, I've decided I want to give LD'ing another try.

I've been re-reading all the tutorials, refreshing myself on all the relevant information, and for the past two weeks, I've kept a very stable sleep schedule: in bed at 10:00, asleep by 10:30, waking with the sun to record my dreams.

The summary:

I've decided I want to WILD, and I'm prepared to stick with this until I do.

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Two nights ago, I made it was far as the "vibrations", where the whole of me shook back and forth, and a bit of SP (my arms and legs, when I did move them at last, felt like they were made of stone.)

I need your help, though, [your name]. I know the technique, but I'm obviously not the most experienced person here. For the next few weeks, I'll be posting my WILD attempts. If you could give me tips, tell me what I'm doing wrong, if anything, that would be very much appreciated.

How I've done it so far:

I sleep from 10:00 to 4:00, when an alarm wakes me up. If I'm feeling an empty stomach, I drink a glass of water, and I return to bed shortly, as I tend to wake up rather fast (if I stayed up for a half-hour, I don't know if I'd be able to relax enough.)

I lie on my back, though this is not my preferred position for normal sleep. I always sleep on my left side (I'll explain another time), though for some reason, when I try to WILD in that position, my head never seems to rest right on my pillow, and neck pains interrupt my concentration.

I remove my covers, as I find I overheat in bed if I don't fall asleep within a short period of time (and of course, WILD'ing takes a long time for beginners.)

I close my eyes and as I breathe, I think to myself,

on the inhale: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...etc...
on the exhale: I am dreaming.

I don't move until I get to 500, at which point I usually realize I've failed the WILD.

The least you need to know:

Whether boring or not (I don't think they will be), I'll be posting of my attempts at WILD'ing. This thread isn't just about my attempts, it's about what works for you when you WILD. Hopefully, you (dreamviews users who care) can pool your knowledge for the sake of an LD hopeful?

So...

I'm going to try again tonight. I seem to remember reading that you should leave at least three "normal" nights between each WBTB WILD, I'm impatient and convinced I can go farther than I have. I'll post the results in the morning.

Hoping this won't bore you,

Me (who else?)

**Caliban44** · 07-09-2007 08:41 AM

I've just woken up. I slept at 10:30, woke at 3:20.

I've had two squares from a chocolate bar and two drinks of iced tea. I'm going to lucid dream in about five minutes. I'm going to also wash the sugar from my mouth.

**Caliban44** · 07-09-2007 04:37 PM

I think I was too awake. I stayed up for longer (a half hour) and read about lucid dreaming, as some tutorials recommend, but I really think I'm best suited to going straight back to sleep. Also, I was very itchy for some reason! A terribly failed WILD. Should I try again tonight, or give it a rest?

**thearrow** · 07-10-2007 03:28 AM

Firstly, I want to say STICK WITH IT! And good luck with your future attempts.

At almost 2 years of trying with no success to get an LD, I feel now I'm getting closer than ever O_o

To try and answer your question, I would give it a rest every few days. I find that when I try and WILD constantly (every night) I am usually way too tired to make it through the next attempt. Clarity, in her tutorial, stated that even she did it only on the weekends.

I also find that viewing bright sources of light (like the computer screen reading tutorials) during the time I'm up wakes me up way too much and I can't get back to sleep. I would recommend staying in more darkness during the time that you're up.

Itchy, lol.....don't have advice for you there. Like Clarity's tutorial says, try and ignore it.

I dunno about caffine, either... I'm pretty sensitive to stimulants and that keeps me way too awake for a successful WILD attempt.......(not that I would know, of course, so take all my advice with a very LARGE grain of salt....seeing that I haven't seen success in 2 years O_o)

**Volcon** · 07-10-2007 03:41 AM

500 dosent mean fail. Keep going

**Caliban44** · 07-10-2007 04:53 AM

Since all this week I'll be painting my fence, I'll need lots of sleep, so I don't think I'll WILD again past tonight (I'm going to bed VERY late, though... hmmm...)

Thanks for the advice, guys. I'll certainly keep that in mind for next time.

**tekkendreams** · 07-10-2007 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by thearrow

Firstly, I want to say STICK WITH IT! And good luck with your future attempts.

At almost 2 years of trying with no success to get an LD, I feel now I'm getting closer than ever O_o

To try and answer your question, I would give it a rest every few days. I find that when I try and WILD constantly (every night) I am usually way too tired to make it through the next attempt. Clarity, in her tutorial, stated that even she did it only on the weekends.

I also find that viewing bright sources of light (like the computer screen reading tutorials) during the time I'm up wakes me up way too much and I can't get back to sleep. I would recommend staying in more darkness during the time that you're up.

Itchy, lol.....don't have advice for you there. Like Clarity's tutorial says, try and ignore it.

I dunno about caffine, either... I'm pretty sensitive to stimulants and that keeps me way too awake for a successful WILD attempt.......(not that I would know, of course, so take all my advice with a very LARGE grain of salt....seeing that I haven't seen success in 2 years O_o)

2 years!! and not one , i really hope i dont end like that

**Caliban44** · 07-10-2007 01:59 PM

Well, I don't think it's really the end for him... in fact, since he's never had one and is still trying, he's basically having a two year (or longer, if luck is against him) beginning!

**EVIL JOE** · 07-10-2007 11:06 PM

I've been trying for one year. My signature says I've had lucids, but they aren't the totally-conscious-in-your-dream lucids. I wasn't totally aware when I had them. Maybe I should take them out of my signature. Anyways, I'm doing RC's now, trying to WILD almost every night, and I've even given up masturbation (starting 7-7-07) to see if that has anything to do with it.

**FreeOne** · 07-10-2007 11:25 PM

good luck with your WILDs man!

just know that the first one is the hardest.

oh and know that its ok to be flexible. What i mean is, there isnt just one WILD technique for everyone. if somthing isnt working for you, change it! if you dont like your wbtb time at 5 hours, change it to 4 hours, or 6 hours. if you dont think the counting method is working, then try somthing else. If laying on your back isnt working for you, lay on your side or stomach. try WILDing when you are very awake, or nearly asleep, etc. you get the point

hope you get your WILD soon!

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