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      I think if you could meet someone who knows how to NLP, you could have them program you. There are people who can throw suggestions in sentences and make the victim think that the therapist is invisible.

      As for the mp3s and such, you can find some at this site but for me they didn't work.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rainman View Post
      I think if you could meet someone who knows how to NLP, you could have them program you. There are people who can throw suggestions in sentences and make the victim think that the therapist is invisible.
      Like Derren Brown! I don't think that will make you have tons of LDs though.

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      Yep I was actually about to mention Derren Brown. That guy's a genius really! You never know... there are so many ways to manipulate the mind, it could be possible to trigger lucid dreams that way.

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      Everyone can benefit from hypnosis in terms of relaxation and guided imagery, but only 5-10% of people are highly hypnotizable to the point that they will act out a suggestion. It's a heritable trait that is probably genetic to some extent.

      If you're a part of that lucky minority, then it can help you lucid dream very quickly. If you're like the rest of us, it only help as much as any other technique...

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      but only 5-10% of people are highly hypnotizable to the point that they will act out a suggestion.
      No, that's entirely false I'm afraid. Most people can be programmed to act on suggestions with very little difficulty. You will find that this is true with most people who follow trends of society, and that's a majority of any civilized society or country.

      Read up on neuro-linguistic programing, conditioned response, and hypnotic suggestion. You'll find that almost anyone and pretty much everyone is affected by it constantly and in a more exclusive hypnosis, they would be affected. Actual hypnosis only works on you if you want it to, but subtle suggestion will work on just about anyone whether or not they agree to it. Kind of scary when you think of it.

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      I'm actually trained in hypnosis and have actually read the scientific research on it.

      In controlled scientific studies, you have to be able to act out "posthypnotic suggestion" to get a score of 11 on this standarized scale. If you look at the chart, only 5% of people scored an 11, and 3% scored a 12. So 5% + 3% = 8% total are considered "high hypnotizables," which empirically supports my earlier claim of 5-10%. The science speaks for itself, unlike your arrogance.

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      'but only 5-10% of people are highly hypnotizable to the point that they will act out a suggestion.'

      False. I think what you mean is that only 5-10% reaches the somnambulistic depth. responses include amnesia, hallucinations, bizarre post-hypnotic actions.

      And those 5-10% are just from the INITIAL induction.

      There is also the concept of conditioning a subject to achieve a deeper depth of trance.
      Milton Erickson himself said that almost anyone can reach somnambulism as long as exposures to the trance effort continue. sooner or later the subject will achieve somnambulism.

      the 5-10 percentage can be disputed too.

      Study by Hull found 22.26 to reach somnambulism
      Study by LeCron and Bordeaux found 25 percent

      And then there the guy who wrote Instant Self-hypnosis. he claimed, I think it was like 2-5 percent or something, not sure.

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      Quote Originally Posted by REMemberDreaming View Post
      Don't speak out of your ass and pretend to know something about a topic in which you don't. Just because you've read some shoddy websites or books doesn't make you an expert, or give you the right to make blatantly false corrections of what I said. I'm actually trained in hypnosis and have actually read the scientific research on it.

      In controlled scientific studies, you have to be able to act out "posthypnotic suggestion" to get a score of 11 on this standarized scale. If you look at the chart, only 5% of people scored an 11, and 3% scored a 12. So 5% + 3% = 8% total are considered "high hypnotizables," which empirically supports my earlier claim of 5-10%. The science speaks for itself, unlike your arrogance.

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      Your a freaking dumbass! Hes just trying to help!

      Oh, look at me, I can insult people! Just cause he doesn't agree with your totally stupid awsner (Like myself) Doesn't mean you have to make yourself dumber as you already look.

      Sorry guys, thats just my opionion!

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