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      Zildjian Cymbal ‹berschall's Avatar
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      Why won't it work

      I've been trying WILDS a lot lately. Also often in combination with WBTB, but something just doesn't work.

      During my last, let's say three WILDs, I got some sensations, like a hypowhatevayouspellitlike jerk and such, but never any further. I lay there for over an hour, but I never go into that transition phase.


      Afterall, what does it take one to get it done? How long did it take for you until it worked?
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      It isn't like your dream recall got up in the middle of the night and thought, "Fuck him, I'm going somewhere else."

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      Copied from a recent PM I sent to someone:

      I guess I am an okay WILDer. I think much of this is because I tried "astral projection" for a few years to see if it was real before I learned about Lucid Dreaming. I had no success, only strong vibrations and sinking into my bed. Later, I read about the WILD technique and discovered the similarities between methods. As soon as I gave WILDing a try, I was successful. The key is in learning to quiet the mind.

      I started off WILDing at the start of the night which is great practice, but is of little practicality. Much of the calming you have to do is already done if you WILD after you wake up.

      Basically, get it into your head before you go to sleep that you will wake up many times during the night (we all do anyway) and that you will be aware of it. When you wake up, look at the time and do a reality check. Once you are confident that you are not dreaming, make sure you have had about four hours of sleep, and then get in a comfortable sleeping position.

      Imagine your consciousness encased in a little bubble, then visualize it being placed into a little pocket within your subconscious mind. The idea here is to make yourself believe that your "awareness" is protected by this bubble from the "sleep drugs" that make one fall out completely.

      Watch the hypnogogic imagery as it forms before your eyes. The key is to not control the images...just observe with passive interest how the images pan out. Do not think about stuff. If you absolutely must think, then think about the word "nothing"; chanting it over and over in the back of your mind, all the time feeling and believing that you are falling asleep consciously. I used to do this to achieve sleep paralysis during AP attempts, but find I do not need it for WILDs because I can shut thoughts out.

      Eventually the images become very real and you might have trouble not getting excited. This takes time, but soon the dream will become very real to you, though you will not feel your dream body at this point. This is where most guides stop and fail. They don't tell you what is next. Eventually I discovered that there comes a point to where you can mentally control the "dream" before you actually enter it with full paralysis. You can feel your dream body to a CERTAIN EXTENT. This is the key. In this stage I will usually run around in the dream kicking and punching things, or jumping and ducking (oddly, I discovered last night that reading works quite well too). This actively engages the mind in the dream and keeps the dream body in action so it can solidify.

      In about a minute you should then feel a tingling in the spine as paralysis becomes solid. At this point you will know you have succeeded as you will have full control of the body as well as that awesome feeling one gets when they are in a lucid dream.

      All the details aside; basically you need to believe. This is essential.

      Hmm what else? If you are in a lucid dream and it fades away because you forgot to spin in time, don't move your physical body. Keep your eyes closed and WILD right back into a new dream. The more tired you are the easier it is to WILD, but it is very important to have no doubt that you can retain consciousness; especially when you are tired. In many cases you will fall asleep for a few seconds, but as soon as the dream begins you become lucid.

      Do the same things every night; when you wake, remember to WILD just as much as you remember to recall your dreams.

      As for your last question, my success rate is very high, probably 95%. I don't remember to WILD every night though. This goes up and down as my interest in the matter does I suppose. Some nights I WILD four or five times in a row, sometimes not at all, but usually only for lack of trying.

      Remember it is not very hard if you just believe. You do not need the 900,000 point relaxation technique or the super catlike ninja mantra meditation preparation technique. You simply have to have confidence in your abilities. I don't even keep a dream journal most of the time and never prepare for WILDs. I am not suggesting you don't use any of these things, god no. That is my foolishness I am sure. I just want to emphasize the importance of belief.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Never View Post
      Remember it is not very hard if you just believe. You do not need the 900,000 point relaxation technique or the super catlike ninja mantra meditation preparation technique. You simply have to have confidence in your abilities.
      In my opinion, this is the key. Probably the single most important part when it comes to LDs. It's your mind. You can control it.
      Victory goes to those with courage.

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      Yeah, Never definitely knows what he's talking about.
      There is no real-life, there is only AFK.

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      In my mind...I guess you're right.


      What I discovered tonight is that I have this problem with sleep paralysis. My Arms and legs are feeling numb, but my torso just doesn't. And If I then move my arms and legs, they suddenly feel very light, as if they'd be floating. Just my torso doesn't feel numb or anything.
      Quote Originally Posted by Terrorhawker View Post
      It isn't like your dream recall got up in the middle of the night and thought, "Fuck him, I'm going somewhere else."

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      Quote Originally Posted by ‹berschall View Post
      In my mind...I guess you're right.


      What I discovered tonight is that I have this problem with sleep paralysis. My Arms and legs are feeling numb, but my torso just doesn't. And If I then move my arms and legs, they suddenly feel very light, as if they'd be floating. Just my torso doesn't feel numb or anything.
      That's not sleep paralysis

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      I never thought it was, I just thought my feet and arms getting numb and heavy would be a good sign =S
      Quote Originally Posted by Terrorhawker View Post
      It isn't like your dream recall got up in the middle of the night and thought, "Fuck him, I'm going somewhere else."

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