... then what? I know that you say to then attempt a MILD or WILD, but what are the specifics? Just as a favour (it's my birthday ) could you write a short list for say, a WILD or MILD after staying awake for say... an hour?

The only technique I've had success with is HILD, and that's after quite a few attempts. If someone could just write a quick and easy, yet specific guideline to WBTB'ing, It would be much appreciated. A WBTB for Dummies if you will.

Thanks again. Perhaps I'll let ya have some cake?

- Nemesis