Thread: Problem getting lucid

Are you getting enough sleep lately? I've been experiencing something similar. It seems I just cannot stay focussed enough and then fall into a deep sleep or a normal dream.

You are getting at least 7 hours a night(not counting the time you are doing WILD), right?

interesting... i have often had this problem, i think its because of the fact, i'd rather sleep during the day during night.. so i'm an insomniac at night, and almost a narcoleptic during the day (well not that bad, but i get sleep attacks once in awile).

Many times i'll WILD and be in the state, but will be to mentally tired to try anything.. so i spend my time in either darkness or light until i hit normal sleep.

No, I am closer to the 5-6 hours a night, with naps when avalible durning the day. FT student/ FT employee takes a toll at your sleep peroid. Also I found that I can only WILD while on my back, not my side where I am most likely to fall asleep.

Evan

Originally posted by salamnder
No, I am closer to the 5-6 hours a night, with naps when avalible durning the day.

That's my problem as well. When I get less than 7 hours of sleep at night, my dreams a really fuzzy and vague, if I can even recall them at all! And then if I try to nap in the day, it makes my night sleep even shorter. Course I have insomnia. I have to be in "remission" to have good dream recall and LDs.

I think doing WILDs on your back is normal though. Or maybe even requisite. Anyone can correct me on that one?

I can't achieve WILDS yet, but I get *much* closer to achieving one if I'm on my back. I don't have even an ounce of success in any other position.

BTW, sometimes if I lay awake on my back (any time of night), I picture my hands folded over my stomach.. and then in about a minute, it seems like they're getting farther and farther away, and that the rest of my body is slowly disappearing out from under me. Is this sort of what a WILD is supposed to be like? I don't do the WILD technique in these cases, it just happens when I'm generally comfortable and relaxed.

Yep - thats the beginning of a WILD
In my case, spinning, and sinking. Heavy feeling.
Other things you can have are vibrations, sounds and HI ... mini senseless dreams and pictures...

Originally posted by Seeker
Are you getting enough sleep lately? *I've been experiencing something similar. *It seems I just cannot stay focussed enough and then fall into a deep sleep or a normal dream.

You are getting at least 7 hours a night(not counting the time you are doing WILD), right?

I don't get very much sleep, but no matter how much I sleep (whether it's 20 minutes or 8 hours), I always dream, and they are usually very clear to me. I dont know why. I think maybe I'm just weird.

I think doing WILDs on your back is normal though. Or maybe even requisite[/b]

I thought it was just me. I can't even attempt it in any other position. If I lay on my stomach I feel my heart too much, if Im on my side, I just have trouble getting out of my akwardly positioned physical body and into my astral body.

Originally posted by gameover


I thought it was just me. I can't even attempt it in any other position. If I lay on my stomach I feel my heart too much, if Im on my side, I just have trouble getting out of my akwardly positioned physical body and into my astral body.

Yeah same here! I also have to have my hands on my stomach.. and make sure they're not touching. lol

I have a quick question, when the vibrations start, do you find it better to concentrate on them or ignore them?

Originally posted by Scwigglie

I have a quick question, when the vibrations start, do you find it better to concentrate on them or ignore them?

You kinda "acknowledge" their presense, knowing you will be in a dream

soon. Not really focus or ignore. just lay there expecting to enter a dream.

main thing is - dont try focusing on your body, or you may snap out of it.

I have a quick question, when the vibrations start, do you find it better to concentrate on them or ignore them?[/b]

WHen a WILD works for me, I feel like I mentally move into the vibrations. Hard to explain. It's like I'm creating my dream body and starting to move with it. Then I lay there for a minute and my "new body" forms. When It hasnt worked for me, I focus on the vibrations and get too excited about them happening.

my first and full WILD had my dream body OBE from my WILD sleeping body. I have a feeling it is one of the only ways for your brain to make that physical/metaphysical seperation.

Evan

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=16

Refer to Tutorial Section on WBTB Method. Great and popular way to induce lucid dreams.