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      I'm going to start trying this when going to sleep; it seems to me that switching consciousness from internal (the white ceiling) to external (object in hand) is a good way to maintain lucidity as you fall asleep because our waking consciousness is largely tied to our physical body and environment.

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      the one problem with this that I can see is...

      tell me why the object WOULND'T be in your hands if you eventually dream of this white ceiling?

      sounds like a bad reality check...that simply you would dream and you would still have this object.

      constructive criticism though; this wasnt an attack!

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      Quote Originally Posted by james_jlc View Post
      the one problem with this that I can see is...

      tell me why the object WOULND'T be in your hands if you eventually dream of this white ceiling?

      sounds like a bad reality check...that simply you would dream and you would still have this object.

      constructive criticism though; this wasnt an attack!
      I'm guessing that your sense of touch would be somewhat, or more than somewhat decreased, but the object would still be in your hand.

      This sounds really cool, I'll try it tonight. (morning)

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      I can't sleep on my back. Is there any other way for this to work?

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      try your side, shouldnt make a great deal of difference.

      and Mman19,

      The reason not 100% of dreams are Lucid is because we don't realise when 'touch' is decreased. Its such a subtle dream sign, I think maybe just trying to pass a finger through your hand would work better.

      Or just turn this into a VILD...because its pretty close already eh?

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      Quote Originally Posted by ThiefDeath View Post
      I can't sleep on my back. Is there any other way for this to work?
      Yes you can try it in any position that is comfortable for you. The reason why i said on your back is because most people on most relaxed in that position.
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      Man, this sounds kinda like FILD! interesting, though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moon Cow View Post
      Yes you can try it in any position that is comfortable for you. The reason why i said on your back is because most people on most relaxed in that position.
      Would it work first - second time with WBTB?

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      Quote Originally Posted by james_jlc View Post
      the one problem with this that I can see is...

      tell me why the object WOULND'T be in your hands if you eventually dream of this white ceiling?

      sounds like a bad reality check...that simply you would dream and you would still have this object.

      constructive criticism though; this wasnt an attack!
      Sleep paralysis - I don't think you would feel the object.

      I tried this last night, but it didn't work. Then again I had lousy recall (1 short dream), I dropped the object sometime during sleep, and this is my first try.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Webmaster View Post
      Sleep paralysis - I don't think you would feel the object.

      I tried this last night, but it didn't work. Then again I had lousy recall (1 short dream), I dropped the object sometime during sleep, and this is my first try.
      Maybe you missed my point....the way I see....

      1. you go to sleep...whilst checking if you have the object.

      2. you dream about what you were just doing.

      3. but you notice that the object is gone.

      Nothing to do with sleep paralysis...because you dream about what you were just doing. you are not 'feeling' the object for real. You are trying to feel it in the dream and noticing it is gone.

      My question is...why would the object be gone?

      Im not trying to poo-poo this technique...but as NO ONE has suceeded I just dont place my confidence in it; when their are plenty of other proven methods to practice until you perfect them.

      If it works, congrats...but repetition is key. Id rather practice MILD or WILD, or Dream Yoga.

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