Please Confirm: Was Is Lucid?

[youssarian]

The situation: I am in darkness. For no apparent reason whatsoever, I realize, "I'm dreaming!". Suddenly, my hands and feet grow heavy, as they usually do as I get sleep paralysis. Wanting to keep the dream going and hoping to make the dream more vivid, I start spinning. In the far darkness, I see the outlines of several buildings. An eye with many bands of different colors, my ever-lasting visual foe in the darkness, starts to appear but I keep spinning and imagine it turning into a stiped pole to get rid of it. Then it ends. My question is, was is a real LD or was it just a simulated one? Perhaps it is possible to say "I'm dreaming" in your dream but not go lucid because you just say it in the dream without actual thought? I'm fairly confident it was a DILD, but I would like to know for sure.

[Barns]

It sounds like it could have been... Anyway, even if it was a DILD it wasn't much of one.

[Bonsay]

A lucid dream is a dream in which you are aware that you're dreaming. If you realized it was a dream, then it's an LD. I don't "believe" in simulated LDs, there is only one definition... and only two possibilities.

[seeker28]

Bonsay has it right. The defintion of a "lucid dream" is simply to realize you are dreaming while in a dream. Often, people still have nonsensical "dream logic" while lucid. There is a big diffrence between a low level of lucidity and the total control of high level lucidity.

[Marvo]

Saying "I'm lucid" while awake, doesn't really make you lucid either. If you knew you were dreaming, then you were dreaming. If you said you were dreaming, but didn't know it/realize it, you weren't lucid. Once again, I can only reemploy the meaning of lucid: To know that you are dreaming.

[youssarian]

OK, I'll go with you guys. And hey, I wasn't expecting my first LD to be amazingly complex, so I guess it was a good start - albiet boring.

[NeAvO]

Congratualtions, to me that sounds like you actually did realise you were dreaming and didn't just "dream it". You even seemed to have control which was impressive too. I suggest that you don't spin next time, they tend to be more hassle then what they're worth!

[youssarian]

Yay. Control.

[HakktHazard]

Yeah, from my experience you have to know you are dreaming to be lucid. Recently I've had an unfortunate amount of dreams where I say I'm lucid and end up watching myself dream. Basically dreaming about being lucid.

[FreeOne]

i like this definition. "lucid dreaming is being consciously aware of the fact that you are dreaming, while you are dreaming."

[joseph1594]

Yeah, from my experience you have to know you are dreaming to be lucid. Recently I've had an unfortunate amount of dreams where I say I'm lucid and end up watching myself dream. Basically dreaming about being lucid. You are still lucid. Lucid dreaming is when you are aware you are dreaming. You could be not in control and just watching actions and realize you're dreaming, thus becoming lucid. Dream control is another thing. You were lucid. Yes to the thread creator, you were lucid. I don't understand how there could be a simulated lucid, you realize your dreaming, and acknowledge you realized you were dreaming when you wake up, therefore, you had a lucid dream.