Thread: Methods for waking up in REM period withought alarm clock?

Hi all,
I have recently been told that waking up with an alarm clock can affect the amount of time you have to stay up to perform any sort of WILD.
I am wondering if any of you have solutions for this as i always use my phone alarm to wake me and whenever i try to wake up naturally using auto suggestion i still sleep throught the night.
Advice would be much appreciated.

Make sure you are thirsty before going to sleep, and put a glass of water beside your bed, every time the REM period finished you would wake up to have a drink. This method hasn't worked for me very well but you might have a different result.

Originally Posted by Cathode_Ray

Make sure you are thirsty before going to sleep, and put a glass of water beside your bed, every time the REM period finished you would wake up to have a drink. This method hasn't worked for me very well but you might have a different result.

thanks for the tip, but i dont usually have good sleep with a dry throat. Not totally dismissing this idea... its just that it doesn't work to well for me.

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Actually, we all wake up naturally at the ending of each REM-sleep period (research hasn't yet found out why). These very brief awakenings are called 'micro-awakenings' and sometimes also occur spontaneously during dreaming. The prerequisite for using these awakenings to do WILD or MILD is to intend, before you go to bed, to remember to recognize the moment you wake up during the night. This way you can wake up without using an alarm clock.

Personal tip: You could also use your mobile phone as an alarm clock but instead on setting it on 'sound' mode, setting in it on 'vibrate' mode. If you risk carrying your phone in some pocket while you're sleeping (or somewhere in your pillow?), you might wake up from it (without the annoying loud alarm sound ringing).

Originally Posted by Lucidipedia

Actually, we all wake up naturally at the ending of each REM-sleep period (research hasn't yet found out why). These very brief awakenings are called 'micro-awakenings' and sometimes also occur spontaneously during dreaming. The prerequisite for using these awakenings to do WILD or MILD is to intend, before you go to bed, to remember to recognize the moment you wake up during the night. This way you can wake up without using an alarm clock.

Personal tip: You could also use your mobile phone as an alarm clock but instead on setting it on 'sound' mode, setting in it on 'vibrate' mode. If you risk carrying your phone in some pocket while you're sleeping (or somewhere in your pillow?), you might wake up from it (without the annoying loud alarm sound ringing).

I know about the vibrate alarm but i never really found any use of it because it has never woken me up due to my incredibly thick pillow. I could use thinner ones but that would make my sleep uncomfortable.
Sorry for being so picky about this, its just that i really need a good simple effective way of waking me up. I only have 1 alarm sound on my phone and it is extreamly irritating. heres how it goes...
"(Loud drum beats) then a guys voice saying "DING DING DING DINGEDING DINGEDIN DING DIN DIN DIN DINGEDIN DINGEDIN DIGER DIN DIN DIN! DINGEDIN DING DING DING... and then a drum roll to finish it off.
And it gets louder and louder every time it plays.
Yeh i know...