I want my Lu cid dream

[TopographicOceans]

Well I have been completely obbsessed with Lucid dreaming for over a month now, but I have yet to have one. My interest is fading slightly since I havent experienced anything yet. I dont understand how some people can get Lucid the first night they learned about the subject. I have know about this stuff for years, but only in the last month have I actually put in effort, and nothing?? I am going to try a WILD tonight. Is there a better chance for becoming lucid for the first time from that or DILD??

[Mes Tarrant]

Well I have been completely obbsessed with Lucid dreaming I think that's part of your problem.. thinking about it too much! Our minds are sensitive things... we can't force them to do anything, so you might want to try to just relax about the whole thing. What sorts of techniques have you been practicing?

[Wavefunction]

Mes Tarrant is right - you don't want to force it. I got my first lucid dream by simply taking a break from trying to lucid dream.

[TopographicOceans]

techniques...well just the basic reality checks, dream journal, telling myself before falling asleep "I will realize I am dreaming, I will have a Lucid dream"...I havent really tried an actual WILD, I usually stop my self from entering SP because of many horrific experiences I have had with that when I was younger. Maybe I should stop "trying" to LD for a week and see what happens.

[Mes Tarrant]

Yeah absolutely! But you can still continue to further your knowledge on the subject. I'd recommend getting LaBerge's book from the library or reading it online or something... I find that it really helps to motivate me in a very different way.. in a subconscious way, perhaps, so that random DILDs become more frequent. Give it a shot!

[Naiya]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but most people take a lot longer than a month or two before they get any results at all. If you really want to lucid dream you'll just have to keep trying. Almost everyone I know who's wanted to LD gives up around this point. It sounds amazing when you learn about it--and it is amazing. However, nothing worthwhile comes without effort. Good luck.

[analyst]

i'd agree with all that has been posted here. no sense in getting yourself worked up about other's results. a month is not too long! is your recall getting better with journaling? i'd say it is important to improve recall on 2 fronts: for remembering more dreams and to remember longer single dreams. i find LD dry spells happen for me when both sides of my recall is screwed. DILDs haven't been so easy for me, but WILDs have been better. if i had bad SP problems in the past (i haven't -- but which you say you have), i know it would effect my efforts. it sounds like you may have some stuff to work through... although who knows, maybe this attests at you having a natural ability to WILD? good luck with it, and do not hesitate to ask specific questions about your experiences with trying to WILD if you try again. analyst (and btw, cool username man!)

[yay]

I have know about this stuff for years, but only in the last month have I actually put in effort, and nothing?? I am going to try a WILD tonight. Is there a better chance for becoming lucid for the first time from that or DILD?? As said before, it can take a while. But for a suggestion I agree with Mes Tarrant, I've heard of a few people who give up and soon after they have one. When I try to have a lucid dream, I usually don't. I had my first lucid (DILD) when I was in 3rd grade. I didn't have any control, I just knew it was a dream. I've had a couple more maybe as I was growing up, but they started to happen every couple of weeks only recently, about a year ago and I am 20. My DILDs are usually pretty random, but on the other hand, I can usually tell when I will be able to WILD. With a DILD you usually have already been sleeping for a while. I think that is why they are more random. Dreams can be so absurd that you don't even realize how absurd it was until you wake up, which makes recognizing it is a dream somewhat rare for most people. With a WILD, I usually recognize that when I close my eyes at night that I am getting a lot of hypnagogic imagery. This is also usually random, but in a different way since I can recognize it. My first WILD was at night before going to sleep, I felt like I was on the edge of being awake, and asleep. I could feel my body sinking into the bed, and I could choose to go into a dream, or wake myself. I decided to go into the dream and it was one of the most amazing experiences in my life. I fell in love with dreams that night. To answer your last question, I think its pretty well established that DILDs are the most common form of lucid dreams, though some are just more able to WILD than others, as analyst is. But the best technique I myself, and most everyone else seems to agree with, is the WBTB method. This works very well for DILDs and WILDs (and probably most, if not all others). It lets you enter the dream state from the awake state in short amount of time. If you try to think about lucid dreaming as you are falling asleep during this time, you may be more likely to realize that you are dreaming. Sorry for this long post, but if you read it, I hope it helps!

[ninja9578]

WILDs are harder the first time. However, if you try to WILD and fail you may end up having a WBTB effect. Just make sure that you do the reality checks and you'll get there. Promise *slips secret lucid pill into your pocket *

[lagunagirl]

it took me 3 months before my first lucid. Just keep trying. Have you tried WBTB? That's a really effective method for a lot of people. I would also check out this tutorial if you haven't already (which also covers WBTB as well as 3 other techniques) http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=55740 and what I do during WBTB is eat a banana, because it has a lot of B6 in it (and... some other thing - sorry I dont know the name) that's supposed to help you lucid dream. may work, may not. it's just something that usually works for me.

[Goldney]

It's annoying trying to get your first lucid dream, I remember I was trying for ages and seriously considering giving up, however you ought to keep going. Dild is almost certainly the easiest technique to learn on. I personally found Mild to be helpful, espescially when combined with WBTB. They also aren't particularly disruptive processes like Wild can be. I've actually written a guide on Mild if you want to check it out.

[imj]

Well I have been completely obbsessed with Lucid dreaming for over a month now, but I have yet to have one. My interest is fading slightly since I havent experienced anything yet. I dont understand how some people can get Lucid the first night they learned about the subject. I have know about this stuff for years, but only in the last month have I actually put in effort, and nothing?? I am going to try a WILD tonight. Is there a better chance for becoming lucid for the first time from that or DILD?? Definately DILD when you are desperate! Use your desperation to find ways to have them.....even if it may sound crazy. The more crazy the method the higher chance of it working because it would create an impression on your subconcious. Like for example I went up to the 20th floor of a block of flats just to do an RC. IMJ

[Draoi]

This is what I've had the most success with (8 LDs over the past week!): A variation of the MILD/WILD technique. 1) Get up after 5 1/2 to 6 hrs of sleep. 2) Empty your bladder and do a reality test. 3) Drink a half cup of milk, take a B6, and then drink a cup of instant coffee. 4) Do another reality test. 5) Go back to bed. 6) Lay on your back and do whatever WILD visualization is most comfortable for you. Do it till you're in a lucid dream or until you're no longer comfortable. I've been using the "being dragged (forwards) across the sheets" visualization. I imagine myself being pulled by the ankles across the sheets, trying to feel the cloth rubbing against my back. This usually takes about 15 minutes. 7) If you're not there yet (I'm usually not), roll onto your side or belly and do this variation of the MILD technique: a) Imagine yourself somewhere very well known to you but is also a natural dreamsign. (I imagine being in my old barn, which was destroyed by a windstorm several years ago.) b) Imagine yourself walking from notable point to notable point within the building. (There are about 13 such points in my barn.) c) At each point, imagine yourself realizing that you are dreaming and performing your pre-planned dream activity. (such as taking off into the air, or touching your tongue to the roof of your mouth.) d) Before proceeding to the next point, say to yourself, "The next time I'm dreaming, I want to remember that I'm dreaming." e) Continue until you cycle through the entire building or are asleep. This should take at least 20 minutes. It's ok to look at a clock the first time you do this to get a feel for the time. After that, don't. It may spoil the effect. If you're still not asleep after cycling through the building, just allow yourself to drift off while making an effort to hold onto your intention to become lucid, thinking of nothing else. The time you spent practicing the technique has already "burned" it into your unconscious mind. Note: The biggest problem I've had up until recently is falling asleep TOO SOON. You need to do the MILD technique with singleminded focus until your intention is "set" or you fall asleep. That's why I do the milk, B6, coffee thing. If I don't, I go through the technique fogbrained and usually fall asleep within 5 minutes. I rarely have a lucid dream when that happens, and even if I do, the quality usually isn't very good. You can play around with these variables to maximize the benefit. The important thing is to make sure you DO MILD FOR AT LEAST 20 MINUTES. Doing the WILD technique on my back before doing MILD also helps me focus, making MILD easier to do, and the switching of techniques midstream/cycling through different points in the dream building holds my interest by avoiding repetition.

[whitby_jet]

I haven't really learnt to induce LD's yet, but find I have more of them spontaneously when I'm keeping a dream diary and reading/thinking about dreaming a lot. I also repeat 'I will lucid dream' or something similar over and over again before sleeping. At the very least I have many more vivid dreams, but it takes some work and patience. Keep going, and good luck!

[TopographicOceans]

Thanks for the comments and technique ideas. I did try a WILD last night but nothing. I set the alarm for 4.5 hours. Woke up, I was up for maybe 2 minutes then back to bed. Then I just tryed to stay relaxed and focusing on my breathing. After maybe 25 minutes, I here a noise like someone is walking on the side of my bed, very clearly like dragging there feet. As soon as I heard that, my eyes started shooting back and forth like 50 times in two seconds. I didnt see any HI at all. It felt different, but it didnt feel like SP. Nothing else happened so I guess I just fell to regular sleep. Am I on the right path to becoming LUCID, or am I far off?

[Draoi]

5 1/2 to 6 hrs of sleep is better. your REMs will be longer and you'll be more rested, making it easier to concentrate.

[TopographicOceans]

I am going to copy and paste what I wrote from a few days ago because this just doesnt make any sence. So please any comments or ideas, because I dont have the best recall but this dream I remembered everything start to finish. I just dont know what I did or didnt do differently. It was my "first" Lucid and it lasted a long time and I had control, almost like ive done this my whole life, but I cant remember any other specific times. "I just woke up a half hour ago from my first LUCID experience...But it might not have been, I think I might have had many before, but i'll get to that in a minute, heres what happened. I only had 2 hours of sleep last night. I woke up for some reason to get somthing to eat. I stayed up for maybe an hour then went back to bed. I then wake up while in SP laying on my side. And at no point did I try or plan a WILD or even think LUCID, I hate SP but this time i just sorta didnt care. Then I stood up and I had to pull my self out of bed really hard alomost like I was stuck to my bed. At this point I basicaly just knew I was LUCID. I did reality checks just to make sure. I then walk out side, and look around for a minute. This is the part thats weird. I said to my self "ok I guess I should fly" and I started flying like it was nothing new, like the motion and the way I started to fly is when it hit my that I have done this many many times before. Also I spun around so many times in my dream last night that I cant remember every scene and all. But without getting into detail of all the dream, this Lucid felt like at least an hour in real time. It ended like the end of a movie, a black fade to nothing. The weird thing is, this was my first LUCID dream that I woke up directly from and wrote down in the dream journal, but it really feels like I have been there before. I mean at no point did I wake my self up from excitement durring this, its just so weird and such strange deja vu. Because if I didnt directly enter and wake up directly from this dream, I would never have remembered the actual moment that I became LUCID, I would just have remembered the main scenes. Is it possible that this could have been happening my whole but without me knowing? This is crazy!"

[analyst]

that's awesome man! congrats on a killer first remembered LD! you seem well on your way to continue exploration. i wouldn't sweat if you really have done it before... as why does it really matter? what matters is that you know you can do it now, and if you journal you will remember more and more. again... congrats!!!

[LittleBuddy]

alrighty, here's what ya gotta do: Throughout the day, keep performing your favourite type of RC (like pinching the nose..), this could spark a DILD for you in a dream. If you wake up by yourself or from your alarm, and were not dreaming, turn it off and try a WILD If you wake up by yourself or from your alarm, and WERE dreaming, doing a FILD. This atleast covers simple techniques, as well as makes great use of waking up in the night. Try 'em