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      Possible New WILD Technique- Stay up late, do something repetetive, and READ!

      I just had a WILD. It happened completely on accident...I don't know if this constitutes a "technique" or not, but I remember exactly how it happened, and you can decide for yourselves if you want to give it a try.

      Last night I was falling asleep, and randomly thought, "It sure would be nice to lucid dream again, I miss doing that." I say 'random' because I haven't done much lucid dream practice in several months. But I didn't bother even trying to WILD, because it never ever works for me, and I have already psyched myself into believing I can't do it.

      Over the past 5 or 6 days in a row, I've only gotten a few hours of sleep. I've been extremely tired, but so busy that I never wanted to go to sleep, so I stayed up. Every once and a while at night I play an online MMORPG. Last night I spent several hours on it, because I was really into it. Finally, I had to sleep, my eyes were closing against my will. So I went to bed. I instantly felt myself falling asleep, and sort of like spinning. HI set in within one minute, and perhaps 2 minutes after that, I was seeing full scenery before my eyes.

      I began to see the game I had just been playing, and someone was sending me an instant message. Even though I wasn't quite asleep, I was seeing sketches of scenes, but I was still half-aware. I thought I was still playing the game, so I focused on the instant message window and instinctively made the words big so I could see them. They kept shifting.

      "Turn right" and "Bean soup" and then something in what looked like Russian symbols. I realized that I heading into being in a lucid dream, like phasing or something, but I was SO interested in what I thought was the game, that I IGNORED the impulse to focus on a WILD. (And I think that's why I was about to have one). After several moments, the scenes went to blackness. My whole body became numb INSTANTLY. It wasn't gradual at all. I couldn't move. I felt as though my mattress was slowly sucking me in. I was sinking through it, when I felt as though I was all the way through it, I rushed downwards very fast and there was a VERY VERY loud rushing sound in my ears. It scared the SHIT out of me, and then I saw the dweller. At that point I figured I was either about in AP or the trans phase of WILD, but either way I was WAY to freaked out to let it continue. I tried to move but couldn't, obviously...(noobies, don't panic if you can't move...your movement returns easier if you just relax) so I waited for my consciousness to shift back and I woke up, kicking myself. LOL.

      I think the trick was noting that it was indeed turning into a WILD, and focusing on something else half-way. Your mind must stay awake, that's why I say half-way. I was concentrating on something my mind made up, but I thought it was really happening, because I had just been playing the game 5 minutes before that. I let my logic go away. Obviously if words are changing you are either dreaming, or about to be dreaming. But I declared to myself that "sometimes words change", and my brain accepted it, and continued trying to read the words. By NOT focusing on the WILD itself, I was allowing it to happen.

      The other part of it was that I was reading something. I was specifically focused on a specific thing, that my body thought was external, so I was half-dreamy/losing focus, and half-awake/still focused.

      Just thought I'd share with everyone. I have never ever had a successful WILD and I've been trying for years...so if I can do it..on accident, chances are you can do it too. Different things work for everyone. There is NO right or wrong way to do it. Whatever works for you. This just happens to be what worked for me! (Maybe next time I won't pussy out of it?)

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      That sounds cool, I will try it
      I would really like to try WILDing...
      But, SP kind of scares me.
      Well Jesus Christ,
      I'm not scared to die,
      I'm a little bit scared of what comes after.
      Do I get the gold chariot,
      Do I float through the ceiling?

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      Yeah, it used to not scare me...and it's not actually the paralysis itself that scares me, it's the hypnagogia ...the sounds and shit. Not cool at all lol.

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      Yeah, I wondered if something like that might work. For example, If you play a PC game the whole friggin night, like I do, what happens when you close your eyes?

      All you can see is that you are in the game! EXACTLY! Thus, that could seriously speed up the hypnagogic imagery, meaning you are already seeing complete scenes in your head.

      I need to try that sometime, Just need to find a cool game. Leisure suit larry anyone?

      EsC

      PS: Stop lauging at the jigglin' banana!

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      What you're experiencing is the "Tetris Effect". After doing something repetitive for a prolonged period - whether it be something work-related or playing a video game - you'll start to see it whenever you close your eyes, and you'll especially see it in your HI.

      I'd suggest playing Tetris for a few hours straight before going to bed. I've never actually done it myself, but my hypothesis would be that focusing on the falling tetrominoes you'll inevitably see after closing your eyes will help keep your mind awake enough for a WILD.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ElmStreetCrusader View Post
      Yeah, I wondered if something like that might work. For example, If you play a PC game the whole friggin night, like I do, what happens when you close your eyes?

      All you can see is that you are in the game! EXACTLY! Thus, that could seriously speed up the hypnagogic imagery, meaning you are already seeing complete scenes in your head.

      I need to try that sometime, Just need to find a cool game. Leisure suit larry anyone?

      EsC

      PS: Stop lauging at the jigglin' banana!
      If anyone plays Second Life and knows sometimes when you rez (appear when game is loaded) you float just above the ground slightly...
      Last time I became Lucid I roze up above the groung slightly hovering with me arms out, just like Second life.
      Wasn't until I thought about it later that day I realised what had happened with the hovering.
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      This technique is not a bad idea, but since it involves missing sleep than I would not suggest doing it too often. It looks like the lack of sleep beforehand helped you to both fall asleep faster and to start REM sleep faster. Since your mind craves REM sleep, it gets more when you get less sleep (and also if you get more sleep).
      I don't think your game is the cause of the WILD, but this "tetris effect" could be useful. When you go to sleep after playing a new game that you havn't played before a lot, you can try to form associations between this game and being aware of dreaming. This should act as a safty net if you don't end up WILDing. If it is a similar case, then you will probably end up WILDing because of the HI.
      How can you put this together? First, go to sleep early and at the same time for a few days, and on the last day wake up early enough so that you are tired. Next pick out a new game to play (or anything else new and exiting that you can do for several hours), and get all worked up about it. If you can use figuritive language that mentions dreams to describe it (e.g. This is the ___ of my dreams! ; I must be dreaming!). Then play your game for several hours untill it's really late and your body makes you fall asleep. Lastly fall asleep while telling yourself that the next time you will play that game it will be a dream.
      If you decide that something is beautiful
      then something else immediately becomes ugly
      without you realizing it
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      Seemingly the bough is the cause of the fruit,
      But really the bough exists because of the fruit.
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      Quote Originally Posted by gagaku View Post
      This technique is not a bad idea, but since it involves missing sleep than I would not suggest doing it too often. It looks like the lack of sleep beforehand helped you to both fall asleep faster and to start REM sleep faster. Since your mind craves REM sleep, it gets more when you get less sleep (and also if you get more sleep).
      I don't think your game is the cause of the WILD, but this "tetris effect" could be useful. When you go to sleep after playing a new game that you havn't played before a lot, you can try to form associations between this game and being aware of dreaming. This should act as a safty net if you don't end up WILDing. If it is a similar case, then you will probably end up WILDing because of the HI.
      How can you put this together? First, go to sleep early and at the same time for a few days, and on the last day wake up early enough so that you are tired. Next pick out a new game to play (or anything else new and exiting that you can do for several hours), and get all worked up about it. If you can use figuritive language that mentions dreams to describe it (e.g. This is the ___ of my dreams! ; I must be dreaming!). Then play your game for several hours untill it's really late and your body makes you fall asleep. Lastly fall asleep while telling yourself that the next time you will play that game it will be a dream.
      Yes. Regular sleep patterns are suggested from most sources concerning Lucidity.
      Only two I haven't was a sleep deprivation trial, which isn't recommended,
      and a trial on sleep pattern breaking, spreading sleep across night and day.
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      Dreamchaser it's interesting that you mention Second Life, that's the game I was playing!

      I kept seeing it in my head, and it made me WILD. Although I do agree that perhaps this technique shoul not be used overly, as it involves lack of sleep. I hope this works for someone!

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