Thread: Finally, A 10 second lucid induction! Title -*MFG*

Originally Posted by malac

........ Did you read it...the whole thing? Read it again, it'll explain more than what I can tell you right now, then ask again if you're still confused

Steps 3 to 7, more specifically.

Of course I read it.

I even read it again to humor you, but found that my question was still not answered, and though I think I know the answer, I just want to clarify it for myself and others.

Immediately after the thought of it being realistic or vivid, use your actual hands to grab and touch the nearest got damn thing closest to you. This image won't last long so you'll have to be fast about. I say actual hands because for when you use your actual hands, it'll for that moment be your dream hands.
(Yes, I discovered that the highest, strongest, most effective tactile movement is----Using your real body parts at a certain time, such as this!)

When you do this step, do you just reach out your real hands to "grab" something in your visualization, or do you actually, tangibly grab something near the bed in your room?

I think this should be titled GILD for Grabbed Image Lucid Dream, simply because the "ILD" thing is quite catchy and I think most people will think of/use this technique more if it soulds all official & stuff

I tried this last night with some good results. Here is what happened, pasted from my DJ. Anyway, I really feel like this has some potential and I think it should be experimented with more. I will keep on working on it.

Maloc's Fast Grab
I attempted this technique with interesting results. I visualized a world and started to see bright colors. However, I didn't wait until it formed, I just tried with all my might to reach out with my hands. I found that I couldn't and my body felt incredibly tight and bound. My dream hands sunk into a pool of molten color and it was the strangest feeling. Unfortunately I did not enter a lucid dream. The whole experience felt like a fast WILD, in a way. It was really great. I want to try it again.

I tried it another time in the night but I didn't visualize anything and I was on my belly so I ended up just hitting my bed with my real hands.

I don't know if I dreamed that this happened, but I did a version of this last night, and it worked!!

This technic sounds too good, at least i try, i´ll be a little sceptical about it. 10-15 seconds? God...If this works it will be the new Saint Graal of Lucid Dreaming!

However, it´s always positive to see people showing new prespectives, opening new patchs, and not always wasting time writing the sames tutorials...

At around 8 this morning I tried to WILD. I fell asleep and when I woke up, I immediately started visualizing for this technique. After about 30 seconds I found myself observing the scene I imagined, so I grabbed for something and it WORKED! The LD was only 10 seconds long, but it was the first one I've had since mid July! Thank you Malac!

Originally Posted by RockNRoller123

At around 8 this morning I tried to WILD. I fell asleep and when I woke up, I immediately started visualizing for this technique. After about 30 seconds I found myself observing the scene I imagined, so I grabbed for something and it WORKED! The LD was only 10 seconds long, but it was the first one I've had since mid July! Thank you Malac!

Heh np. That's why I said to stabilize once you're in the dream so you can stay in it Should get easier now for you since you done it once.

Yeah.

It was crazy I tried to stabilize my dream by looking at my hands, which is the only way that works for me, but it was like my neck was broke and I couldn't look at them.

I think I understand the "real hands" analogy, so I'm gonna throw in my two cents and maybe it will help somebody.

Like the practice example Malac used: imagining a scene and grabbing an object; actually using your physical body to grab an object. When attempting MFG, you would try to use your physical body to grab an object. Actually try to grab the object with your real, actual, physical hands. That's it.. If you've done it correctly, your actual hands won't move, but your imaginary dream hands will.

Does that sound about right, malac?

Also, what is this rolling out of bed and doing a RC? This works for WILDs too?

You just provided a possible answer to my biggest LD problem. I'm very grateful, I'll try it tonight.

Thanks to Malac's technique, I had my first lucid dream last night!
So thankyou malac for coming out w/ this technique.

and for any other people who r curious, this technique is very easy. It took me about two minutes to let a vivid place come to me but once I did I simply grabbed the object, then did an Rc...and from that point on I was Lucid. Its Awesome!


ps. This was my first attempt w/ any lucid dream technique in months.

how do you visualize ive tried this twice and utterly failed exactly what do you look for? :S

Originally Posted by lucid03

Thanks to Malac's technique, I had my first lucid dream last night!
So thankyou malac for coming out w/ this technique.

and for any other people who r curious, this technique is very easy. It took me about two minutes to let a vivid place come to me but once I did I simply grabbed the object, then did an Rc...and from that point on I was Lucid. Its Awesome!


ps. This was my first attempt w/ any lucid dream technique in months.

Heh, nice.

@maxy and everyone else who is confused with visualizing. Its just imagery. What to look for is vivid imagery that is described in this detailed thread. Simple and quick answer

While you guys hang tight and continue to attempt and work this, I'm trying different ways to optimize and make this more "user-friendly" than it already is lol. For those of you who had success with this, please describe your experience on what you did and how to help others who are having trouble visualizing.

Well, when I was lying there, I just let some random thoughts come and go to allow me to become sleepy. After a little while I started to visualize a walmart, I was standing in one of the aisles. It seemed to get more vivid after a while and eventually I decided I was going to grab an object right next to me. I think it was toilet paper. But I didnt because I didnt want to wake up my body. But after one or two more delays I decided to do it.(When I did this I used my REAL hand, as in my hand that I brush my teeth with!) And then I laid my arm back on my bed and I waited about 30 seconds then decided to do an RC. It turned out I could breathe through my nose so I knew I was in a dream. I stayed calm and kept my eyes clothes for of waking up if I opened them, but in the end I opened to find that im in my bedroom. I then got out of bed and walked through my bedroom wall to change the scenery. I then ended up in a parking lot, Its then that I decided I was going to try and fly. So I jumped of a nearby hill, I started good but ended up falling. I spent the rest of the dream trying to fly but my legs seemed to get heavier and heavier so I couldnt. Unfortunatley I woke up and never got to fly. But Im still glad I had this expirence an am looking foward to the next one. Also I didnt think about it to hard when I was still visualizing, I just let it come naturally.

Originally Posted by lucid03

Well, when I was lying there, I just let some random thoughts come and go to allow me to become sleepy. After a little while I started to visualize a walmart, I was standing in one of the aisles. It seemed to get more vivid after a while and eventually I decided I was going to grab an object right next to me. I think it was toilet paper. But I didnt because I didnt want to wake up my body. But after one or two more delays I decided to do it.(When I did this I used my REAL hand, as in my hand that I brush my teeth with!) And then I laid my arm back on my bed and I waited about 30 seconds then decided to do an RC. It turned out I could breathe through my nose so I knew I was in a dream. I stayed calm and kept my eyes clothes for of waking up if I opened them, but in the end I opened to find that im in my bedroom. I then got out of bed and walked through my bedroom wall to change the scenery. I then ended up in a parking lot, Its then that I decided I was going to try and fly. So I jumped of a nearby hill, I started good but ended up falling. I spent the rest of the dream trying to fly but my legs seemed to get heavier and heavier so I couldnt. Unfortunatley I woke up and never got to fly. But Im still glad I had this expirence an am looking foward to the next one. Also I didnt think about it to hard when I was still visualizing, I just let it come naturally.

GAHHH Lucky you.
me still not lucky.

This worked last night for me, the first time I tried it.
I can vouch

i just tried this last night after reading it yesterday. and it wored for me. i accdentaly lifted my waking hand to grab the imiage. i just told myself no, my real hand. and then it worked.

dream was super hard to stablize. not sure why. but i eventually got it.

thx for the tech

Yeh you would have to be paralysed first.

I tried it, but didn't work out. I'm still positive towards the technique though, because I couldn't quite fall asleep after waking up anyway, so therein the problem probably lies.

Whenever I attempt to WILD I focus my attention purely on visualizing a landscape in front of me. Every so often I get quick flashes of breathtakingly real scenes that vanish before I can get the chance to really observe them. This to me is very frustrating because eventually after playing that game too long my mind wanders and I drift into sleep...

Bumpity bump.

I finally got it to work, but with limited results. See the thing is, I got up from my bed at some point and I went back to bed. I remember getting some nice HI, showing what looked like a yard with some trees close to me. It took me some time before I realized I could still feel my bed and that I was actually dreaming, or atleast something close. I instantly tried to reach out for the trees, which worked. I could see my hands and control them, reaching out and all, but what didn't seem to work was grabbing anything. It was like I just couldn't reach any of the scenery, and it kinda seemed that things just got further and further away. In theory, I could just have raised and I would have been in a complete dream, but meh, logic is not the number 1 force when asleep.

It works, and from what I can feel and read, it's basically the same as dream chaining, as in getting up, then going directly back to bed and entering a dream, also known (as far as I know) as DEILD and FILD. I'm not too experienced in this field of lucid-dreaming though, but apparently it worked for me, so I should definitely look into it.

I can't really add anything to this technique, though I can definitely say that the biggest problem in performing it is not failing the grabbing, but rather falling asleep almost instantly once you go back to bed.

I'm getting no results. Am I doing it wrong? Is this important? Can I do it when I go to sleep at night? I don't want to wake myself up early and use WBTB or h.i.l.d. I stare into black nothingness for about 10 minutes, and HI starts appearing. I make it black, and imagine the HI fade in (HI is the clearest way to imagine for me), but when I try to grab an object I feel it for a split second, and then just wake up. And it is not an FA.

How many attempts so far?

Hmm, I think it was 10±2.

I don't know if literally grabbing the scenery would work. You know when you feel like your falling then wake up feeling like you just feel a few feet? It seems like grabbing it would startle yourself. I think a better way is to Not interact with it. To let it flow. I've found that when I let things happen, more than force weird things to happen, that they just come to me. It's worth a try for those of you who say when you tried to grab it that it didn't work....