WILD right at the start

**fragmastr** · 10-20-2008 07:11 PM

I keep reading that it's best have slept about 4 - 6 hours before waking and attempting to induce sleep paralysis to WILD.

Is it possible to just get in bed, lie still, focus on one spot, have SP and then go straight into REM and lucid dream?

**Tweek** · 10-20-2008 10:31 PM

Ummm. Not for the average person, no.

I've got a question though, why does it feel like when I try to WILD I've been in bed for HOURS. 45 minutes last night felt like an hour and a half trying to WILD.

Does it just take mad patience or something? I could kinda feel getting closer and closer to a dream land near the end, but I was just getting anxious cause I was getting some strong HI's but I didn't want to let the moment go, but I just ruined it.

IS patience key, or am I missing something?

**Shift** · 10-20-2008 10:32 PM

I personally wouldn't waste my time in the beginning of my sleep, for relatively crappy REM periods, it would take me forever to fall asleep anyway. The only exception would be napping, which for some reason seem to be different.

It is possible. I'm just not adept enough at WILDing that it becomes a realistic possibility. Not when I'm only getting 5 hours of sleep a night anyway.

Here's a similar thread http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ild+right+away

**roland3tr** · 10-20-2008 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Shift

I personally wouldn't waste my time in the beginning of my sleep, for relatively crappy REM periods, it would take me forever to fall asleep anyway. The only exception would be napping, which for some reason seem to be different.

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Totally agreed

And also, I'm not sure if you can get true SP after you just go to bed. If you are sleepy you would end up sleeping, if you are not,you would be wide awake and again you will end up sleeping. After 5 hours a sleep, things become very different

**Tweek** · 10-20-2008 10:58 PM

So why does it feel like I've been laying in bed for hours on end when I try to reach SP WILDing? I just lay there thinking about it. What my deal?

**fragmastr** · 10-20-2008 10:59 PM

cool. Thanks guys.

I was lying in bed for seriously 2 hours last night trying, so don't sweat it man.

The closest I got was at one point, using the breathing method, I began to tingle all over almost like I was shaking and my chest felt like it was being pressed. I felt like I was spinning but, I must have gotten too excited or something.

My eyes had been kind of flittery (it was 4 o clock in the morning...u think I'd be sleepy) and they didn't want to stay shut. I had kind of forced myself to keep them closed and after all the tingling I thought I may have done it because I thought I saw my room behind a veil. I was about to do a reality check but it turns out that my eyes had just opened up and I had failed.

=(.

I'll try tonight after 5 hours and see what I get with that.

**drewmandan** · 10-20-2008 11:03 PM

Fragmastr, if you must get a lucid dream early for whatever reason, I would suggest the DEILD method. DEILD sidesteps the problem of relaxation and entering SP, and doesn't take away hours of sleep if it fails. In fact, the majority of my lucid dreams have been DEILD just because it's so easy.

Here's a tut:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62769

**roland3tr** · 10-20-2008 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tweek

So why does it feel like I've been laying in bed for hours on end when I try to reach SP WILDing? I just lay there thinking about it. What my deal?

Patience is the key like you asked, but there is one thing. Don't lay there thinking about SP. I mean don't think it. Just try to focus on "I'm dreaming.. I'm..". SP will come eventually. If you don't want to say the "I'm dreaming" part, or if it doesn't work for you, just observe everything you are expriencing at that moment.

**reesespieces** · 10-21-2008 01:37 AM

actually that is exactly what i do to have WILDs and happy to report that it work i have done this 3-5 times successfully

**Tweek** · 10-21-2008 02:28 AM

Yeah I tried the,"1 I'm dreaming...2 I'm dreaming...etc.." For three times I got to around 70-80 and started thinking about something else. That's when I tried to just visualize and think about random shit. That was when I got the closest, and then just went to sleep.

I definitely do feel like I'm making progress though. Just slowly. Then one night it will be like,"BAM!" HAHA

**fragmastr** · 10-21-2008 03:57 AM

Yeah. Im definitley giving DEILD a try tonight. I'm sleeping in early tonight

**mini0991** · 10-21-2008 04:53 AM

Downright impossible. Do it with a WBTB, if you stay focused it should just come right to you.

**Shift** · 10-21-2008 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by mini0991

Downright impossible. Do it with a WBTB, if you stay focused it should just come right to you.

it's not impossible.

**The Guardians** · 10-24-2008 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by mini0991

Downright impossible.....

Common now, nothing's impossible. Don't listen to such negativity bud, It will only make it harder for you. It IS possible I HAVE done it and its basically the same as a WBTB wild. The only thing is that when you do achieve this you need to focus extra hard to not fall back into a dream or just plain asleep. keep reminding yourself that you're in a dream.

**moonshine** · 11-02-2008 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Tweek

Ummm. Not for the average person, no.

I've got a question though, why does it feel like when I try to WILD I've been in bed for HOURS. 45 minutes last night felt like an hour and a half trying to WILD.

Really? I get the opposite.
What seems like 1/2 hour trying to wild turns out to have been 2 hours.

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