HOILD--Hard-on Induced Lucid Dream

[ladoys]

A fast way to have sex in a dream is to HOILD. It's based around the theory that if you masturbate before going back to bed, you should be able to enter a Lucid sex dream. This is intended to work for males and females. I hope this helps all the beginners and whoever else that trys to lucid dream for the sex. Its worked for me more than a few times. I have been told by other people that it works pretty effectively since you need little past experience with WILD and it should be faster since it is boosted by masturbation. People who have trouble with WILDing and getting relaxed should try this. If you hear of someone whos having trouble relaxing then send them here. Here it is: 1. Go to bed just as normal. Autosuggestion may help. 2. Wake up after a few hours of sleep but not too late and not too early. 3. Masturbate to right before the point of climax(or near it). IMPORTANT: DO NOT CLIMAX. Failure to heed will result in falling asleep unconsciously and you lose your shot at Lucidity! 4. Go back to sleep. Just going back to sleep may give you a sex dream but you will only be lucid if you attempt to remain conscious. TIPS: This may be more helpful if you combine it with WBTB but it is not necessary. Mostly whatever is better for you. The masturbation alone may be enough for you to remain conscious as sleep sets in. But if it isnt, try going to the bathroom BEFORE you masturbate. Make sure masturbation is the thing you do before you go to bed. That is the key. I have also been told that it is easier to remember them when you haven't had sex or masturbated in more than a day. (Its not that long, don't worry) And yes, you could go to completion you just need to make sure you can keep conscious. Feel free to use any way you like to stay awake, be it counting breaths, meditating, etc. Good Luck!

[The Prodigy]

So basically i wake up, take a piss, masturbate until just before climax, then go back to sleep? Sounds simple enough should i combine this with pornographic images or videos?

[D1M3B4G]

Wow that's some crazy stuff. I just might have to try it one day.

[DreamPirate]

I had this one last night, although I went past the climax... I fell right asleep after it. I woke out of my sex dream in the morning. I don't think it was really lucid though, it was very very vivid but I didn't really control everything. Anyway, I'd like to hear if other people have any success with this method. This was my strongest (vivid/lucid) dream in years.

[DreamChaser]

Sounds cool. I can think of another angle on this could help WILDs. Masturbate to completion. (Guys that is...girls will be wide awake) We all know it makes you tired and your body very tired. So we take B6 or coffee or anything like an hour before to keep yourself awake because I guarantee your body will go to sleep mighty quick. Keep your mind awake and that's one quick WILD right there.

[DreamPirate]

Sounds cool. I can think of another angle on this could help WILDs. Masturbate to completion. (Guys that is...girls will be wide awake) We all know it makes you tired and your body very tired. So we take B6 or coffee or anything like an hour before to keep yourself awake because I guarantee your body will go to sleep mighty quick. Keep your mind awake and that's one quick WILD right there. The B6 and coffee part sounds very interesting, I'm definitely gonna try B6 with it tonight. Maybe take the B6 with some apple juice, it could add something to the vividness of the dream. I'll post my experiences tomorrow, hope some other people will try this one too.

[nightflyer]

People who have trouble with WILDing and getting relaxed should try this. If you hear of someone whos having trouble relaxing then send them here. feels free to use any way you like to stay awake, be it counting breaths, meditating, etc. Good Luck! __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________ Just like everything else, there are some undesirable side-effect that you should know about...especially for MEN. Some background info: Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) DHT is the primary contributing factor in male-pattern baldness. DHT may play a role in the development or exacerbation of benign prostatic hyperplasia, or BPH, and prostate cancer, by enlarging the prostate gland (Can someone said incontinence) This is not the case for women; female-pattern baldness is characterized by increased rates of production of testosterone, but not of DHT. Women with increased levels of DHT may develop certain androgynous male secondary sex characteristics, including a deepened voice and facial hair Over-masturbation/Over-ejaculation triggers excessive conversion of testosterone to DHT in the prostate and testicles. This is why frequent orgasm can cause excessive DHT level in the bloodstream. Excessive fantasizing can also over-excite the hypothalamus oxytocinergic nervous system and thus cause excessive testosterone-DHT conversion. On the other hand (…no pun intended), excessive orgasm also produce excessive prolactin and epinephrine to induce the arterial constriction for a poor blood circulation everywhere in your body, particularly, scalp, prostate and joints (weak legs symptom). Interestingly, 5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan) can reduce the epinephrine release from the hypothalamus, brain stem and adrenal medulla. This reduction in epinephrine probably produces an increase in relaxation response for the physical body. Which translate to less interference from our conscious mind into our dream and therefore our dream become more vivid. So basically, you will be bald old men living in the oncology ward with weak legs and have to go to the bathroom constantly

[Lionsroar]

wtf? thats the dumbest thing i've heard. wack of and you go bald?

[nightflyer]

wtf? thats the dumbest thing i've heard. wack of and you go bald? __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________ Masturbation in itself is NOT a bad thing. What I said is that OVER doing it can leads to problems...like trying to do it every night to induce a LD as suggested by the original poster of this thread. Check out this website and judge for yourself: http://www.herballove.com/article.asp?art=62 http://www.herballove.com/mas/ These articles are written by certified Doctors...I didn't wrote them. Nightflyer

[Lionsroar]

Lol i dont want to get into one of those flame-fighting-back-and-forth threads but my last post on this topic http://menshealth.about.com/od/sexua...turbation8.htm http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_mastu...cause_baldness http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...AAp91Xh&show=7 that herballove site is kinda scammy.. just plain ads all over the site

[iank]

That's the dumbest f*****g thing I've ever heard. Wouldn't have been written by the same nutjobs who tell you it can make you blind too, would it? Hilariously stupid.

[Seeks_Knowledge]

Excessive fantasizing can also over-excite the hypothalamus oxytocinergic nervous system and thus cause excessive testosterone-DHT conversion. Please elaborate. Where did you hear this? I can't find anything on herballove.com or anywhere else that claims this. Also, would you happen to know if it's just actual ejaculation that triggers testosterone-DHT conversion or sexual stimulation (ie. masturbation/sex) itself that triggers testosterone-DHT conversion? Does masturbation/sex without ejaculating raise DHT levels?

[nightflyer]

Hi Seeks Knowledge, Concerning the "Excessive fantasizing", it came up in one of the discussion in a taoist forum which I copy down but now I can't find the original thread. So I just put it out here. You be the judge whether it's "stupid" or not On your second question: I'm leaning toward the theory that the actual ejaculation is responsible for the test-DHT conversion. Just because so many taoist books warned against ejaculation. Maybe if you masturbate/sex without ejeculation then you can get the benefit of not getting prostate cancer and other nasty side-effects. But I doubted it from reading the thread here that these people have any self-control at all to stop there if you know what I meant. And responsing to some people in the "stupid/dumb" posts (sophisticated vocabulary...). I'm just going to take a high road here like Lionsroar and let the back-and-forth post be my last here. But let me add that just because you have never heard of it or if you hear it for the first time and you don't like it, doesn't make it "stupid". At least it prompted Lionsroar to do some research that may someday save his life

[Lionsroar]

hey you know what nightflyer.. now your saying it CAUSES prostate cancer? jeesh. seriously, gtfo. It might someday save my life? wow talk about arogance. no offense, but your a woman, I'm sure alot of men wouldnt take whatever you say seriously on this subject. You dont see men coming on some ranom female orgasm thread and proclaiming some half-baked idea that sexual activity can lead to breast cancer or brain tumors and then point to some site that basically sells drugs like viagra for proof. Go away.

[Iamerik]

Apply directly to the forehead. A little intentional title misreading on my side, cookies for who gets it

[nightflyer]

hey you know what nightflyer.. now your saying it CAUSES prostate cancer? jeesh. seriously, gtfo. It might someday save my life? wow talk about arogance. no offense, but your a woman, I'm sure alot of men wouldnt take whatever you say seriously on this subject. You dont see men coming on some ranom female orgasm thread and proclaiming some half-baked idea that sexual activity can lead to breast cancer or brain tumors and then point to some site that basically sells drugs like viagra for proof. Go away. Geez, and I thought you said that your other post was going to be "your last post"... Let me be a bigger woMAN here and appologized to YOU! I don't meant to be arrogance toward you in anyway. I'm just stating my womanly opinion. That is what this "discussion" forum is all about...DISCUSSION. You have the right to your opinion and I have the right to mine. And yet you don't see me calling your post ignorance and stupid. "You're a woman, I'm sure alot of men wouldnt take whatever you say seriously on this subject." Seriously, you sound like a male shovenist. "You dont see men coming on some ranom female orgasm thread and proclaiming some half-baked idea that sexual activity can lead to breast cancer or brain tumors" Last time I checked this was a thread about lucid dream induction technique. "and then point to some site that basically sells drugs like viagra for proof." I apologized for using this site as an example. I also don't approved of this site. But they have some interesting theory concerning brain chemistry pathways and some actual MDs to back it up. Unlike your websites example in Men's Health magazine where they answered in one short sentence..."Urr...Masturbation is OK". Also in their magazine where every other page is an article about how to enhance male sexual prowess. Well dud...of course they are going to said that Masturbation is going to be ok. And did you notice who answer these questions? Not any MDs that I know of...probably some adolescence sitting in the back room typing out these answer while masturbating to a separate screen with porn on his computer P.S. If you choose to reply again, may I suggest that you not using words like "dumb, stupid, or half-baked". It just show a lot more about yourself then about what we are discussing here. Nightflyer

[ladoys]

calm down people haah i've tried this technique and it works XD just dont do it too much or your dream person will become obsessed with it.

[hectord_ng88]

I empirically discover this method last month. One day at the middle of the night I wake up, I don’t know why, then I just feel that it would be nice a little hand job, after that I got slept . Unfortunately I wasn’t lucid but it was the most vivid I can remember. I will try it again today, let’s see what happens

[iank]

The phrase "dumbass" seriously applies to someone in this thread.

[Casualtie]

This is like asking for a wet dream