WILD help

[Vertigo]

Two questions: First, I tend to involuntarily twitch my fingers and toes after a while while attempting to WILD. Is this disruptive to the process? I would guess no, since you can do it when you're asleep, but I don't know for sure. Second, I have never actually gotten to a dream state with a WILD, and I tend to get bored and give up after trying for 40 minutes. Either that or I get so bored that I involuntarily start thinking about stuff and fall asleep (sometimes dreaming about being REALLY bored while trying to WILD ). Of course, sometimes this generates good dreams, like when my favorite comic character (who I was thinking about to pass the time, even though I know you're not supposed to do this) and me were hanging out. Anyway, is there any way to convince yourself to keep going and not give up short of sheer willpower (which I tend to lack)?

[Apopholis]

well 2 things. you have exactly the same problems as me! OK, the second thing, i dont know a cure for boredom, but as for the twitching, as far as i can tell, it happens naturally and is called a hypnic jerk or something, i dont think its disruptive

[melizma06]

yea this is totally me. i just seem unable to wild because yea i start twitching and then i see HI and then it goes away and comes back and blah blah and i end up lying in the same position for ages which makes me uncomfortable so yea i just get bored and start thinking of other stuff and then i just fall asleep! sorry this isn't helpful to you at all, but u are definately not alone!

[Skydreamer707]

Thats so weird! that happens to me too! i start twitchin an stuff tho i never see HI i always thought it was the random twitches that keep stopping me from entering into Sp.As for the bored part ive read some guides that say you can let your mind wander/think stuff but make sure your not concentratin on it or something. normally i just draw detailed images in my head until A: i feel like give up since laying still makes me all stiff or B:i feel the foggyness of SP slip away