Minimal Sleep -> REM rebound, SP

**blade5x** · 03-14-2009 06:03 PM

Ok, so for the past two weeks, both weeks I've had 2-3 day spans where I slept very little due to having to finish off school work. Every night I maybe slept 4-5 hours maximum. The first morning I could wake up fine. I'd feel a bit off, but coffee would keep going right through the day without issues. The second night, I woke up 4 hours, and I felt like a truck had just ran over me. I felt just awful. I hit the snooze, lay back down, and within seconds, I am in sleep paralysis. I had a nice little lucid, before having to wake up after my snooze went off. The same exact thing happened the following week.

So in practice my theory is low amount of sleep will cause some type of REM rebound the following night. Your body will also want to make up for lack of sleep from the previous night, making it extremely easy to WBTB. It is also much safer then sleep depriving yourself to experience REM rebound, because you are NOT sleep depriving yourself. You are only going through one day of low sleep. The second night when attempting, count on getting the full 7-10 hours. The cons - if you fail, it's two day process.

I'll experiment with this over my spring break... Alternate 4/9 hour sleeping.

**Expulsion** · 03-15-2009 05:21 PM

Your waking up before the REM period and wanting to easily fall asleep so it's a solid combination for Lucid dreams.. I've done that a few times my self..

**Shift** · 03-15-2009 06:16 PM

Yes, it is well known that lack of sleep can cause both REM-rebound and sleep paralysis to occur.

**blade5x** · 03-15-2009 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Expulsion

Your waking up before the REM period and wanting to easily fall asleep so it's a solid combination for Lucid dreams.. I've done that a few times my self..

Yeah, the lack of enough sleep from the previous night that should make it much easier to fall into the sleep paralysis state (and then into a lucid dream), as opposed to just attempting this morning by morning where you receive sufficient amounts of sleep day by day.

You are not sleep depriving yourself(everyone can function at least a day off minimal sleep), but receiving similar results with REM rebound, which is a good thing!

By the way, thanks for the title change. I could not exactly think of a good one at the time, and this one works.

**rahim9876** · 03-16-2009 02:55 AM

alrighty. I am also gonna try this during spring break

**BigFan** · 03-24-2009 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Shift

Yes, it is well known that lack of sleep can cause both REM-rebound and sleep paralysis to occur.

I fully agree with this. I sleeped deprived myself for 24hours(I only just reached that mark) and then feel asleep(at ~1 in the afternoon). When I slept at night, I woke up from a dream and recalled all perfectly

**arby** · 03-25-2009 01:00 AM

I'd just like to point out that that is NOT healthy

You do not recover all your REM time. Furthermore, REM is crucial in making solid memories that were just encoded so expect yourself to have inferior memory of anything you learned the days prior to doing this.

Once or twice during a spring break is fine though, just no overdoing it =) And no doing this during school time or any other important parts of your life. Leave at least a 1 day buffer between anything important. (on both sides)

REM rebound responsibly =)

**MrMnemonic** · 03-25-2009 02:41 AM

I have some amitriptyline for my illness - I take 50mg before bed each night.

These tablets tend to stop REM from happening. So I get a huge rebound once REM does occur (usually after 7-8 hours)

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