Hypnosis, NLP, PS (Not SP) to induce lucid dreamig?

[magical mike]

I wana talk about NLP, Hypnosis, and physcological segestion to have lucid dreams.. I know there already is a HILD, but is there a tape or something you can listen to from a hypnotist to actuly induce you in a lucid dream? Also posibly useing NLP? I am going to get this to use in part of my magic routine http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1886 but if someone induced me in a hypnotic sleep could I dream and be lucid? or do you even dream when you area sleep form hypnosis? thanks for reading, just post whats on your mind about it, or any information you have

[magical mike]

anyone? maybe?

[magical mike]

anyone?

[Bonsay]

I'm guessing not many know much about hypnosis or NLP. Neither do I. Maybe if you search the forum you'll find existing threads/experiments on these topics. Unless you can enlighten us a bit more? I don't exactly know what kind of state you are in when you're hypnotized. If people actually hallucinate pink elephants under hypnosis, then perhaps this LD idea is possible. You should ask a hypnotist. Personally, I'd like to see what it's like to be hypnotized myself.

[magical mike]

well, you can hypnotise yourself.. basically using NLP. NLP stands for Neurological Linguistic Programing, Basicaly reprograming certain pathways in your brain. www.nlp.com that has alot of great information on it.. People normaly use NLP on themselfs, but alot of car lot sales men, and the like use it on others.. Maybe if you were hypnotized my a hypnotist, he/she could make you realize that YOU CAN have lucid dreams every night.

[benj2514]

I just started doing hypnosis a couple of days ago. Basically, it is meant to suggest ideas into your subconscious. It cannot make you do anything you do not want to do, like dance or act like a chicken that's ridiculous, and you are fully awake during hypnosis. I suggest using a downloadable mp3 as a quick and sometimes free method. Finding a good free hypnosis mp3 is hard to find. Even if it doesn't help induse a lucid dream there is an extraordinary feeling you get in which your whole body tingles and your relaxed so its win win. Its also safe.

[magical mike]

well, I was hypnotised one time, and he put me into a sleep. I cant remeber if I dreamed or not.. but, I am sure thay can make you sleep

[benj2514]

They can make you fall asleep but it takes a while to learn and its unnecessary for lucid dreaming. All you need is a prerecorded mp3 to listen to before you go to bed

[magical mike]

do you know of any that help with LDing?

[benj2514]

I have been experimenting with it and I believe it helps to a point. You cannot rely on some hypnotist to come along and say "Fall asleep and have a Lucid Dream" but I give myself like 30 min before sleeping to listen to a hypnosis lucid dream mp3 and make sure I won't be disturbed. I interpret it as a form of MILD, but instead of saying to yourself "I will have a lucid dream", someone else taps into your subconscious which helps your dreaming mind to do a reality check (can take up to 15 min to reach your subconscious and probably will) and tells you that you will have a lucid dream (more or less depending on the quality of the hypnotist).

[DreamChaser]

I have been experimenting with it and I believe it helps to a point. You cannot rely on some hypnotist to come along and say "Fall asleep and have a Lucid Dream" but I give myself like 30 min before sleeping to listen to a hypnosis lucid dream mp3 and make sure I won't be disturbed. I interpret it as a form of MILD, but instead of saying to yourself "I will have a lucid dream", someone else taps into your subconscious which helps your dreaming mind to do a reality check (can take up to 15 min to reach your subconscious and probably will) and tells you that you will have a lucid dream (more or less depending on the quality of the hypnotist). I do similar, but till I fall asleep (around 20mins) I count up saying like "When I dream I will RC" or "When I go Lucid I will relax and try flying". The MILD really works for me.

[magical mike]

Thanks guys! my mom has a hypnosis tape to help her sleep. So Ill listen to it, along with the idea that I will remeber to do a reality check upon dreaming ;D Ill post how it turns out!

[magical mike]

WOO-HOO! I had a LD! I really like the HILD method! thanks for the info guys

[nicobinho]

do u think u can upload the mp3? or can someone tell me a link for a good mp3 =)!

[shroom]

HILD rocks, i went from 1 LD a week to having 4 in one night the day after i used HILD.

[detroitLions1970]

HILD rocks, i went from 1 LD a week to having 4 in one night the day after i used HILD. Sounds promising, I'll try it out sometime. //Makes a note to setup a self-hypnosis track for Dreamviews.

[Rainman]

Hi there, I haven't read any of the replies because I'm lazy. I'm rather experienced with neural linguistic programming and conversational hypnosis (and a little bit of clinical hypnosis). Yes, it can be used to aid with lucid dreaming, but like any other method, it does not guarantee you instant lucid dream induction without any work on your part. That said, it is quite helpful. I've got a very very excellent hour long track of the sounds of nature. You dont' have to concentrate on anything you're hearing, as all of the sounds are really covering up a very subtle binaural beats, and subliminal messages. Hypnosis works really well if the person knows what they are doing, although auto-hypnosis never worked for me. Strange.