Thread: salvia-induced LD's perhaps?

Originally Posted by Sentaku

I lol'd

I lol'd harder.
Likewise with pretty much everyone here, I believe that before you begin to try and "lucid dream" on salvia you should master lucidity of a salvia trip, I will quite happily say that the intense effects of salvia are far more overwealming than that of your average dream.

I tried smoking salvia for the first time today with a friend of mine, it was 20x, at first I took a hit and I could feel some effects but the amount must have been a little bit to small so I took another one , a little bit bigger and I was also careful about holding it in long enough. But the effects of this for me were really similar to dreams in some ways. It's really really heavy, that's true but everything about the state you're in fits with what I sometimes go through in dreams. For example alot of times in my dreams I've all of a sudden jumped into a whole storyline, I know all the characters , I know all the places and this and that and then there is a mission to do or something I have to finish and I know I have to do it, and everything around it but I never ask myself why, I just know it's right. I had a really similar thing with my salvia trip, one of almost the only thing I can remember is that I was melting in with the furniture. I could see my friend but somehow I told myself that I would be able to talk to him in a little while, when I was done being a furniture. That doesn't make any sense, at all! but it did at that time, and felt totally right.

What I disliked was that the trip was really heavy and wild but I don't seem to remember any of it. My friend said I laughed like hell for about 3-4 minutes. I did get very relaxed and tired after it, so I think it definitely works well putting you to sleep after a good salvia session.

Isn't there uch easier ways?
-_-

Don't forget to use a butane lighter. More of the active chemical is released this way.....not that you really need it haha.

Might I recommend taking Salvia Sublingually as a lucid dream-aid?

If enough Salvia leaves are chewed and kept under the tongue and against the mucus membranes of the mouth it will work slightly different and last alot longer. Also since the onset of effects are slower this way, it might be better suitable to timing the onset of it's effects to be simultanious to the onset of sleep/dreams.


And perhaps we really DO need our plant allies in order to evolve our consciousness. We were made to need eachother. Like ants need hollow acacia trees to live in, offering them protection, while in turn the Acacia Tree is alot less likely to be eaten by mamals when they are "inhabited" by ants. Mutual protection.
We humans are no different and no exclusion to this symbiotic system.

BTW: I have smoked DMT serveral times now and I dare to bet it can be the best of all Lucid Dream Aids if used as such.
Perhaps Salvia extract + DMT would make for the ultimate oneirogen. Might even add a tiny tiny pinch of the Devil's Flowers who's name shall not be mentioned due to safety reasons.

Originally Posted by Dream scientist

I will only say this once. NO DRUGS!!!!! Giving your life away to drugs is NOT worth it! Just learn to naturally have lucid dreams, for your own sake. For all you know, salvia could become cocaine, or meth, or heroin.

dude if you feel that way dont enter the god damn thread
you disgust me, you dont kno shit about salvia its not meth or coke or heroin at all
so SHUT THE FUCK UP

Originally Posted by SKA

Might I recommend taking Salvia Sublingually as a lucid dream-aid?

If enough Salvia leaves are chewed and kept under the tongue and against the mucus membranes of the mouth it will work slightly different and last alot longer. Also since the onset of effects are slower this way, it might be better suitable to timing the onset of it's effects to be simultanious to the onset of sleep/dreams.


And perhaps we really DO need our plant allies in order to evolve our consciousness. We were made to need eachother. Like ants need hollow acacia trees to live in, offering them protection, while in turn the Acacia Tree is alot less likely to be eaten by mamals when they are "inhabited" by ants. Mutual protection.
We humans are no different and no exclusion to this symbiotic system.

BTW: I have smoked DMT serveral times now and I dare to bet it can be the best of all Lucid Dream Aids if used as such.
Perhaps Salvia extract + DMT would make for the ultimate oneirogen. Might even add a tiny tiny pinch of the Devil's Flowers who's name shall not be mentioned due to safety reasons.

OMG, where did you get DMT i want it, it like doesn't exist in socal

Originally Posted by stnicka

OMG, where did you get DMT i want it, it like doesn't exist in socal

Why an immaterial Humanoid being made of light and energy gave it to me. This being also taught me how to attain pure DMT.
DMT can be extracted from plant sources.
PM me your MSN adress or mail adress. I can and will help you out from A to Z in the process. Be a good, obediant civilian and be sure that, where you live, extracted, pure DMT is legal though

Originally Posted by SKA

Why an immaterial Humanoid being made of light and energy gave it to me. This being also taught me how to attain pure DMT.
DMT can be extracted from plant sources.
PM me your MSN adress or mail adress. I can and will help you out from A to Z in the process. Be a good, obediant civilian and be sure that, where you live, extracted, pure DMT is legal though

LEGAL? really

Originally Posted by stnicka

LEGAL? really

What I meant to say is pure DMT is illegal pretty much everywhere in the world, allthough I'm sure there are some countries that don't have it schedualed as an illegal substance. What I said there was If you're gunna do it then do it somewhere where it IS legal. Get it?

Some people with shit in their brains made DMT a Schedual 1 drug in the US; in the same cathegory as Meth, Heroin, Crack and Cocaine. Which is strange considering how harmless it is. And even stranger considering that it is a naturally produced neurotransmitter in the human brain.

Then the US forced it's laws uppon as much countries as it could. To war-destroyed Europe after WW2, to third world countries later.
War-struck Europe and 3d world countries could only receive US economical help and good business treaties if they were to sign a treaty in which they accepted the American Drug Laws as their own laws. And like this the US made their ignorant war on Drugs Worldwide.


But there should defenitely be a couple of countries that escaped the american global witchhunt and still don't have any laws concerning DMT and who knows what else.

Originally Posted by SKA

Oops! What I meant to say is pure DMT is illegal pretty much everywhere in the world, allthough I'm sure there are some countries that don't have it schedualed as an illegal substance. What I said there was If you're gunna do it then do it somewhere where it IS legal. Get it?

Some people with shit in their brains made DMT a Schedual 1 drug in the US; in the same cathegory as Meth, Heroin, Crack and Cocaine. Which is strange considering how harmless it is. And even stranger considering that it is a naturally produced neurotransmitter in the human brain.

Then the US forced it's laws uppon as much countries as it could. To war-destroyed Europe after WW2, to third world countries later.
War-struck Europe and 3d world countries could only receive US economical help and good business treaties if they were to sign a treaty in which they accepted the American Drug Laws as their own laws. And like this the US made their ignorant war on Drugs Worldwide.


But there should defenitely be a couple of countries that escaped the american global witchhunt and still don't have any laws concerning DMT and who knows what else.

plus nobody follows those laws