How much sleep do you need to enter REM?

**Cammy** · 09-06-2009 08:59 PM

I have come to the conclusion that i've stopped Lucid Dreaming due to my sleep pattern.

I am getting up at 3:45 - 4:30am for work. I am going to bed at night at 9/10pm. This is leaving me 6-7hrs sleep. It's probably less given the fact it might take me upto 1hr to actually drift off!

Could this be the reason? Not enough sleep for LD's?

**Elucive** · 09-06-2009 09:24 PM

It could be... although people wake up 3 to 4 hours later for a WBTB. What techniques are you trying?

**Cammy** · 09-06-2009 09:30 PM

R/C and Dream Diary at side of bed. This was all i needed before. I had some good LD's.

It's all stopped since i changed sleep pattern. Also i changed my room around, and now moved house since. Dont know if these have affected me.

When i get home from work i have an hour or two nap, don't get Lucid though!

**Elucive** · 09-06-2009 09:33 PM

Oh. Well I think it'll all come back eventually. An hour or two for naps?? That's a pretty good time for lucids! Might wanna try some variation of WILD.

**imj** · 09-07-2009 07:43 AM

From my own REM timings I get REM as early as an hour apart but those dreams are very low in vividness and recall. A typical good dream for me on good nights would be 2 and a half to 3 and a half hours after I get into bed.

IMJ