Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD
You really know what your talking about Dannon
I've had thoughts that your truest, deepest, egoless self IS God. The part of you that exists in a pure state of awareness..no thoughts at all.
Call it what you will, it has been called many everything.
Hindus call it the Self
Buddhists call it the NoSelf
Jesus calls it Christ or the Kingdom of Heaven
I just believe it is the eternal infinite pool of creative consciousness that creates because that is in its nature. I don't think it intentionally creates anything on purpose like the idea of a God would. I think it is just the way nature evolves is the way consciousness evolves. I think it is the stuff dreams are made of and dreams are the stuff things are made of. In the beginning there was unborn consciousness and somehow it exploded into energy. This energy cooled down and it crystallized into particles. These particles are the building blocks of matter. Every form is eternally moment by moment being supported and created by consciousness. The ancients knew this. Modern scientists are coming around. Quantum physics now knows what the Buddha knew: that matter is influenced by perception.
So this consciousness is not lucid so it is just dreaming this whole comedy drama of the universe. It is looking for itself. It is looking for happiness. At one time consciousness thought that if it was bigger and fiercer than others and it could eat a lot, it would be happy. So it became dinosaurs. But because consciousness is evolving, it realized it wasn't happy. Animals evolve to survive. Consciousness evolves to be enlightened and happy.
It figured that love had something to do with happiness so it became birds and mammals, which are capable of a higher love than reptiles. Many birds mate for life and mammals show much more affection. Monkeys are very social animals. So consciousness evolves until it becomes lucid and aware of itself. Once consciousness realizes that this whole universe is a dream it created for its own learning and fun, then what? At first consciousness was unconscious, now it will be lucid. Then it can choose to remain in the dream and do whatever it wants, or it can start all over again.
But on a even higher level of reality, perhaps consciousness doesn't change, it never has, and never will. It is always perfect, virgin, unborn, undying, untouched, but blissfully aware.
Now, the self is part of the whole and it is the whole, like a fractal or a hologram. Your pure awareness is your individual pure awareness and it is the universal pure awareness. This is why you can access Universal knowledge through meditation and dreams. This is how telepathy and shared dreams can operate.
The Buddha called it the "NoSelf" because the Hindus have been saying that the self is God. Now Buddha didn't believe in God and he knew that the Hindus were becoming very Egotistical. Have you ever seen a Hindu Yogi? You cannot find someone more egotistical except maybe Mick Jagger. The Buddha says :"So what if you have become a God? Then you are just a big human!" You haven't dropped the ego, now it will be even more difficult to drop it."
But if you become nothing, go on peeling the layers of the onion, until you have peeled the last layer. What is left? Nothing? or the whole Universe?
By the way, I actually like to use words like existence, consciousness, lucid nature instead of the word God. I also like to say "transcend" the ego, "transcend" the mind, instead of "dropping" or "losing". You still have the mind, but it becomes your servant and you become the master instead of the other way around. You can see beyond it. It cannot influence you. We need thoughts and the mind to communicate and to figure things out, but you put it away when you don't need it.
The self and the mind are like a King who leaves the kingdom and the servants sit in the throne, they pretend to be the king. When the king comes back they go back to being servants. When the king goes crazy and forgets that he is the king and the servants start ordering him around, that is the situation we are in. That is what hell is. The servants are the mind or the thoughts. Bring the King back, let the King take his throne and let the servants obey.
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