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      HI-ILD not WILD

      For purposes of clarification let it be known that a WILDs intent is to directly enter the dream state in lucidity. And a HI-ILDs intent is to grow in awareness so that you may while dreaming be more likely to have a DILD or better do MILDs and even have better experience to attempt a WILD.

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      HI-ILD: Hypnagogic Imagery - Induced Lucid Dream

      Hypnagogic Imagery is the colorful or white images you see when you are going to sleep and paying attention to the back of your eyelids. Even now if you close your eyes you can focus on Hypnagogic Imagery. This is the "stuff" dreams are made out of, in other words HI is the 'dream essence'. HI increases to form full dream scenes. HI is the focus of the HI-ILD method. The purpose of HI-ILD is to increase your Lucid Awareness. The purpose of HI-ILD is NOT to enter a dream in lucidity from being awake, this would be a WILD.

      The HI-ILD Method

      1) Find a comfortable place to lay down. You are now going to fall asleep, so relax.

      2) Be paying attention to the HI as it rises and falls. Realize while you watch the HI that it is the essence of dreams. Thus do treat the HI as you would a dream.

      3) Treat that realization the same as if you had just realized you were dreaming. Now as if you were dreaming and had become aware of this fact, become lucid of the HI.

      4) Keep your awareness of the HI lucid. Knowing that HI is the very "stuff" dreams are made out of.

      5) Just as you very easily lose lucidity in a dream, you will lose lucidity of the HI. Repeat steps 2, 3, and 4.

      6) Fall asleep and hope you will become lucid by a DILD or some other means.

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      "Lucid awareness is like a muscle, if you excercise it it will grow." HI-ILD is based on this metaphor and its purpose is to excercise that awareness. You may find after the very first HI-ILD that your dreams become more vivid. You will probably have a semi lucid dream after every HI-ILD. This means your Lucid Awareness is being excercised and is growing. Soon your lucid awareness may grow so that you lucid dream every night. If you feel that you don't want to lucid dream that much, then lay back on the HI-ILD excercising.

      Any Questions?

      Comments/corrections are encouraged.
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      I've tried a similar thing, although I feel I misunderstood the original post on this (it was deleted in the hack)

      I used a WBTB, and then used this method of staying lucid in HI imagery and mini-dreams.
      I got quite far, to the point where I had my own body, and was involved in a 3D environment.
      However the dream was really wierd. More unusual than I generally have them...

      Even without the WBTB, it sounds like a good idea for an exercise of lucid awareness. Well done
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      I've tried a similar thing, although I feel I misunderstood the original post on this (it was deleted in the hack) *

      I used a WBTB, and then used this method of staying lucid in HI imagery and mini-dreams. *
      I got quite far, to the point where I had my own body, and was involved in a 3D environment. *
      However the dream was really wierd. More unusual than I generally have them... [/b]
      Yes the original HI-ILD was judged to be a WILD. This is a different method then the original. I too was staying lucid in the mini-dreams before, I got pretty far too but I don't know if it was day dreaming or what? Maybe that approach will be found useful, though at the moment people consider it a form of WILD. This new HI-ILD method is different than before, thus HI-ILD not WILD.

      Even without the WBTB, it sounds like a good idea for an exercise of lucid awareness. Well done [/b]
      Thanks Give it a try and report back please
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      Yeah, now that there is no intent to enter a dream lucid, it is not WILD. Before it was. In Laberge's EWLD one of his WILD methods is to observe the HI as it develops into a dream and then join in. Why not just enter the dream if you can? Of course people often fall asleep and then it is a failed WILD. Of course it often results in a DILD. Seems that everyone wants to develop some new technique. I've always considered that my failed WILD's were still good because the process of trying to LD made me more likely to realize I was dreaming while in the dream (DILD), but I never thought to put a XX-ILD on it and call it a technique.

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      Seeker and I were just disscusing WILD & it's diversities.

      A new approach to the WILD thing

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      Yeah, now that there is no intent to enter a dream lucid, it is not WILD. Before it was. In Laberge's EWLD one of his WILD methods is to observe the HI as it develops into a dream and then join in. Why not just enter the dream if you can? Of course people often fall asleep and then it is a failed WILD. Of course it often results in a DILD.[/b]

      Observing HI is one step behind Observing HI and realizing it is the \"dream essence\", and thats one step behind excercising your lucid awareness on them. Some people may do so naturally, but others do not. HI-ILD is for those who do not, or for those who have problems with WILDing. HI-ILD is not a thing that you can try and fail, like WILD. HI-ILDing if you try you will get something in return - your awareness will have been excercised on purpose. There is a fine line between a failed WILD and a successful HI-ILD, and I'm sorry if you fail to successfuly see that line.

      Seems that everyone wants to develop some new technique. I've always considered that my failed WILD's were still good because the process of trying to LD made me more likely to realize I was dreaming while in the dream (DILD), but I never thought to put a XX-ILD on it and call it a technique. [/b]

      I just want to help the community attain lucidity, not be named/labeled *creator of XX-ILD - the uber technique*. If I did wish that I could have kept it to myself and patented it, or wrote an ebook about HI-ILD. As you can see this is a community forum. I don't give a **** if people remember who posted HI-ILD first, as long as people attain lucidity through its technique.

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