Thread: 2nd time! Think i've discovered the trick

Effective technique I'm sure, I've been trying along those lines for awhile now, and I always kick myself in the morning when realising how absrud the dream was and how I should have realised so many times!

This may just be the technique that might work for me, seeing as just about everything has failed. Thanks for the info! I too have been devasted by failure many a time, and thus, am willing to try any experimental method.

yeah i have been kinda doing this

saying phrases like

"the next person i see will be a dream character or a replica of someone i know i will then become aware im dreaming"

before going to sleep

I think the reason this worked better for me than other techniques is because my dreams seem so random and complex, that telling myself specific things before going to sleep often weren't relevant. Dreams are often completely absurd or abstract - you might not even have a dream character or normal world to trigger lucidity the conventional way. So rather than rote repetition of any specific dream triggers, i find a broader thought is more likely to work no matter what the style of dream. Thinking about all dreams, rather than just one possible, makes the 'psyching up' applicable to all dreams (i.e. any dream you might be about to have), rather than just a certain style.

Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah, that is effective, getting all anylitical is good for lucid dreaming because it encourages coherant thinking.

Yeah I've more or less had the same problem - my dreams are so random, varied and tripped-out that its impossible for me to find any anchored dreamsigns, and I have had alot of trouble with lucid dreaming - alot of sweat with nothing yet. I have gotten to recall about 4-5 dreams a night though, and so I probably just need a little extra kick to get there.

Ill try it tonight, see what happens.

Okay, I think that I've just found the perfect technique! I am going to try this one tonight!

First things first, though, I'm going to have to start REMEMBERING to do my techniques at night. I go to bed at about 2:00 am, and I get so tired that I forget about anything and just about pass out.

That sounds like a good method, but what do you mean by the concept of dreams?

Wooo hoo mate I think ur onto a winner here...

K so yesterday I stepped up on my reality checks, then before bed I meditated for about 5 mins and repeated "I will lucid dream" as a kinda chant, but not just that I also kinda visualised what it would be like, and made myself absolutley CONVINCED that it would happen. Sure enough I'm dreaming and then next minute whoa this is a dream! It shocked me and the surprise made the dream fade and then I woke up... but at least I know whats happening now.

Obviously this will not get you there alone, but should be the last step taken I think. This won't get you far without dream recall, dream journal and frequent reality checks, but all these things dont' mean much until you've cemented it in your mind. This kinda 'getting revved up' makes it all sink in, and helps with the last bit of actually remembering to reality check in a dream. Well that's what I think anyways. I'm gonna try it some more tonight and see what happens.

Hopefully this will give me the final push.

Well, mate, I have to give you props for this technique! I just wrote down the fourth dream that I remembered from last night! My highest before this was two. I'm amazed!

Hmm. This technique seems to be having some success. Maybe I'll try it out tonight.

i'll try it in conjunction with wild tonight ive also been unsuccesful so far so i hope this works.

Yes. The main poster sure is well written. He must be edjumacated. ;0)

One of the myriad techniques I use which seems to work well is (like stated above) saying:

"the next thing I do, the next place I see, the next person I talk to NOT in my bedroom is going to be a dream."

I say this over and over. And deeply ingrain it into my conscience. I also try the, "anything unusual that happens to me, I must question my state of awarness. Am I dreaming?" And it works well, because now in waking life, if you I see something strange, I do a reality check.

Originally posted by alucinor
I've wandered these forums for a while now, and have tried to devour all the relevant info to help me in my lucidity endeavours. I'd only had one (remembered) lucid dream in my life before my introduction to this site, but since this my attempts have been nothing but a futile struggle. After a very successful night last night, with multiple lucids (that is, second and third ever), i think i've worked out the necessary element to attaining lucidity and detailed dream recall.

Obviously, i can only speak for myself, but doing so, i am perfectly sincere in saying that i'm confident that my success was due almost entirely to the seemingly silly \"psyching up\" beforehand. I'd in the past tried that which is mentioned on these forums of 'telling myself to remember my dreams' before going to sleep, but had never done so more than half-heartedly. But last night i made a great effort to be conscious of nothing but the concept of dreams when fading into sleep.

Up until now i've not only failed in the lucidity attempts but also even in recall. As such, i'd become impatient with the whole process, and it was this impatience that lead to my attempts at cheap shots at efficiency. That is, rather than just trying to be aware of 'waking up and recalling my dreams' when going to sleep (as i've been told to get recall down before attempting lucidity) i went for a more general awareness of the dream concept. I stressed the simple concept of dreams themselves, of imagining the unreality of them, of knowing their falsity, and it was this stressed point that took care of all the rest. In simply thinking about the dream, rather than any rote techniques, the concept penetrated my dreamstate as an analytic idea over and above any experience of dreams throughout my sleep. I'd managed to drill into my mental state such a broad, and thus stronger, idea that it completely flooded all my dream experience that night, heightening my awareness of all consciousness in the dream state.

Thus, i recommend (as it may just work excitingly well for you too) to stress when going to sleep, no more than the general concept of dreams. Don't tell yourself anything rote-like, simply think of what dreams are and how unreal and penetrable they are. If you can develop the cognitive importance of this idea to make it a constant part of your thoughts for at least a few minutes before sleeping, the strength of your attentiveness to the noticeability and disctinctions of dreams from reality should dominate your consciousness throughout sleep too, to the extent that the idea will penetrate the seeming reality of an unreal dream. Hence, realisation, and hopefully lucidity.

Had to quote this again because everyone should read it twice, best advice i've read so far!!! BRAVO!

Awesome advice.

Your subconcious is THE major factor in LDing. I know that when I first found this site I LD'd a LOT more than usual, no doubt because of the whole research I was doing on LDing.

Also sometimes when I take a break from trying to LD (I've never induced an LD using WILD and whatnot, but I'm trying.) I just do it naturally. I'll be in a dream and for no reason at all I'll just go "Hey, I'm dreaming!"