Thread: Problem about getting LDs.

Hi, i'm DarkCoffe64, and I have a problem about getting LDs.
I'm new about LDs, and these are my first times about getting one.
I have a night work that goes from 10:30pm to 4:00am (or sometimes, even later),
so it's hard for me to get a LD. Fortunately, I have days where I don't
work, so, I can try to have one, but the problem is that I can't stop thinking!
Every moment I try to not think about anything, I start think about music,
videogames or even something that I've never heard or read!
What can I do to not think?

Another problem that I have is that my nose is almost closed, so it's hard for
me to breath whit it. And, I don't know why, but if my ears are not covered,
I feel uncomfortable. Don't know why.

Last night I tried using the Lucid Dream Induction Mp3 that I got here:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=16697
I put the mp3 to loop it 2 times, and I stood still while earing it.
It was relaxating, but I could never get to sleep. I felt various time
the "wawe" that happens when you have SP, but I could never get to sleep.
I think I was too nervous or something.
After the mp3 stopped, I started to sleep. I woke up later at 10:23am,
and I tried again but nothing. Then, time later, I decided to wake up and play
some games.

Aand... Any grammar errors are my bad. I'm italian, and I still studying english...

I think it's a bit of a stress matter for you, though not explicitly stress. It sounds like you're constantly going and need to find a way to relax yourself and clear your mind. Don't mean to plug my blog here, but you might find a few of these relaxation techniques, both the body ones and the mental ones, helpful. There's a couple links at the bottom regarding music meditation if you can relax to music as you described above.

If nothing works for you after you've tried a few of those, let me know. I recommend to try the 61-Point Relaxation method, which is good for the mind and body to get relaxed, try it just going up to point 31 for now.

Finally someone replied!
Thanks, tonigh i'll try this technique. I've noticed something that maybe keeps me from getting into complete relax. My heartbeat goes always fast, and maybe it does distract me or something, I don't really know. Another thing that I have noticed, I've tried to sleep with my mouth closed and breath with my nose (even if it was a little hard) and, after some time, my mouth started to open by itself! It's because I'm abitued to sleep with my mouth open? And, another thing, because my heartbeat was fast, I tried thinking about some classic music, and it slowed down! Maybe I should try listening some classic music (or the lucid induction mp3) before or while I'm going to sleep?
Well, for now, tonigh I'll try that relaxation technique, and tomorrow I will post the result.
And, really thank you for replying. Most of the time, I get ignored and I was thinking that no one was going to help me try to have LDs... Thank you!

P.S.
Another thing I would like to know, should I try to do this metod to attain lucidity? http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=42110
And, I've noticed that if I go to bed, like, 4:30am, I always wake up at 10:30am. Do you think I can try to do a WBTB by making my clock ring at, like, 9/9:30?

EDIT: I forgot to say, last night, I did a DJ with a notebook, and I've write what I would like to dream. I was thinking that this
would make my chances of having a LD more high. I even did a drawing of what I wanted to dream! If you want, I can post a scan...

Originally Posted by DarkCoffe64

Finally someone replied!
Thanks, tonigh i'll try this technique. I've noticed something that maybe keeps me from getting into complete relax. My heartbeat goes always fast, and maybe it does distract me or something, I don't really know. Another thing that I have noticed, I've tried to sleep with my mouth closed and breath with my nose (even if it was a little hard) and, after some time, my mouth started to open by itself! It's because I'm abitued to sleep with my mouth open? And, another thing, because my heartbeat was fast, I tried thinking about some classic music, and it slowed down! Maybe I should try listening some classic music (or the lucid induction mp3) before or while I'm going to sleep?

If classical music or lucid induction/recall improvement mp3s work for you, by all means use them. I recommend listening to them before going to bed, not necessarily during sleep. Just something of a personal preference though, I haven't seen anything about whether or not they're bad to listen to while sleeping.

Well, for now, tonigh I'll try that relaxation technique, and tomorrow I will post the result.
And, really thank you for replying. Most of the time, I get ignored and I was thinking that no one was going to help me try to have LDs... Thank you!

Hope that works! You're welcome for the reply - I try to run around DV looking into anything I might know enough about to help people out with LDing. I love doing it, and wish I could do it more often. I hope I can help plenty of people become lucid for themselves.

P.S.
Another thing I would like to know, should I try to do this metod to attain lucidity? http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=42110
And, I've noticed that if I go to bed, like, 4:30am, I always wake up at 10:30am. Do you think I can try to do a WBTB by making my clock ring at, like, 9/9:30?

EDIT: I forgot to say, last night, I did a DJ with a notebook, and I've write what I would like to dream. I was thinking that this
would make my chances of having a LD more high. I even did a drawing of what I wanted to dream! If you want, I can post a scan...

Well, I don't see anything wrong with that method, but it's very lengthy and looks like you're putting a lot of work into just learning how to use that technique - I think that you'd have better results with this topic on attaining lucidity. It's simple, as lucid induction methods ideally should be.

Yes, that sounds like a good time to WBTB, so long as you're getting between 4.5 and 7 hours sleep before you wake yourself. That'll put you in a field of REM phases to utilize for lucids and good dream recall.

Sure, if you want to post a scan that's cool with me, if you post it I'll check it out.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

If classical music or lucid induction/recall improvement mp3s work for you, by all means use them. I recommend listening to them before going to bed, not necessarily during sleep. Just something of a personal preference though, I haven't seen anything about whether or not they're bad to listen to while sleeping.

Well, If you say so, tonigh I'll listen to one of them before going to bed.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

Well, I don't see anything wrong with that method, but it's very lengthy and looks like you're putting a lot of work into just learning how to use that technique - I think that you'd have better results with this topic on attaining lucidity. It's simple, as lucid induction methods ideally should be.

Mhh... I can try... And it's seems very simple!

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

Yes, that sounds like a good time to WBTB, so long as you're getting between 4.5 and 7 hours sleep before you wake yourself. That'll put you in a field of REM phases to utilize for lucids and good dream recall.

So, i put my clock to ring at 9/9:30, or I just sleep, and, when I wake up,
I do something like, go to the bathroom or listen to music or read my DJ?

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

Sure, if you want to post a scan that's cool with me, if you post it I'll check it out.

Okke, here it is:

Spoiler for Dream Journal:

If you don't know who Nights is, just search on Google "Nights Into Dreams".
That game is all about dreams! And is a good game too!

Hey clyde... I I did everything you suggested to have a LD (meditation, music, ecc.), but I din't have one... But I'm not going to surrender to these failures!
I'll try night after night, and one day, I'll have lucid dreams every night!!!
Now, about last night... I programmed my digital clock to ring at 9, for trying to
do a WBTB, and, you know what happened? I woke up before it was going to
ring! I got out of bed, streched a little, and I began reading the tutorials at DV. I was all shakying, maybe because of my body that has just woke up...
After 5 minutes, I think, I shut my PC, I went to the bathroom, and I returned
back to bed. I tried laying on my back and waiting for the SP, but my mind was
full of random troughs! I tried doing the 61 points meditation, but I could not
focus so much, and I gave up after some time. The strange thing is that I tried
doing the exercise after finishing work and before going home, and I think it worked! My mind was clear... I could only hear my breath... But that lasted until I've got to bed...
After failing the meditation, I thinked about hearing again the mp3, i got relaxed,
and, after it ended, I tried getting to sleep. But I feeled hot! I feeled so much
hot, that I had to remove my pajamas to feel a little refreshned. Then, after some time, I sleeped again. And I woke up later, at... 2/3pm I think.

I think that I failed to to the meditation because my grandmother wakes up
at 8/9am, and she does a lot of things like washing plates, or dress, or other
things... And the noise she was doing distracted me from meditating... I think.

Do you think I should wear earplugs? So, after hearing the mp3, I would not
be distracted by the noise? Or I should have the mp3 to loop for some time?
Oh, and I was going to forgot! It seems that I get the SP everytime I hear the mp3... When I have the SP, first I feel all shaky, then I feel like floating...