Thread: help with day practice and induction!

Originally Posted by sleepyzac

so i tried dream yoga for two weeks (saying all day "i'm dreaming" and really imagining it's true.) with a result of dreams where i say i'm dreaming but just continue the dream nonsense.

To be honest, I don't know enough about dream yoga to say for sure how its done, but I'm fairly positive it's more than this

I remember reading somewhere that it's tied into "mental mapping," as in, constantly feeding yourself information about your surroundings so you always know where you are and the details so you would notice if something was out of place.

It MAY also have to do with just that state of awareness of yourself. I don't really ask myself all day long if I'm dreaming or not. But what I do is I try to engage all of my senses. Like how does my body feel (I'm generally achy because I'm old ), what can I smell, what can I hear and (the obvious) what can I see? Just generally experiencing what it feels like to be awake and alive.

It's funny... dreaming feels real - everyone makes that dismissal. "This can't be a dream, it feels too real!" And yet, being awake feels nothing like a dream! Sooner or later, you'll just know

then i started doing every thirty minute state tests and had a couple lucid while using MILD at night but recently have been discouraged because i did a state test in a dream (reading text twice) and thought it was the same!!! i did the test and didn't become lucid!

This is why it's a popular choice to combine two, but, I'm in the same boat. RC's fail ALL THE TIME for me, in dreams. I stopped doing them... sort of. My reality check while I'm awake is to question whether this is a dream. I ask myself what I was doing 5 minutes ago. 10? What am I wearing? Do I remember putting it on? Does everything around me make logical sense? I ONLY reality check if its something worth checking to. Like I watch a car drive the wrong way down the 1-way street outside my work. I "missed" a stop in my head while on the train (meaning, I don't remember passing it).

In dreams... I just know. So I don't reality check when I'm actually dreaming. Because I've lost two lucid dreams due to RC's failing, or arguing whether this is a dream or reality.

It's hard to pinpoint what waking techniques will work best for any person, just because our brains are all wired differently to lucid dreams. I don't benefit at all from frequent reality checks. Even then, when a reality check finally did manifest itself in my dreams, I just marveled that it popped up, but never once stopped to think what that meant, so no lucidity there!

Excellent point - I also believe dream yoga is different from what you described. It sounds like you are practicing an extended MILD technique or stretching mantras out throughout your day.

He's right. Reality checks are not 100% reliable and, when used, should have a purpose rather than be a routine.

Originally Posted by ProDreamers

Excellent point - I also believe dream yoga is different from what you described. It sounds like you are practicing an extended MILD technique or stretching mantras out throughout your day.

He's right. Reality checks are not 100% reliable and, when used, should have a purpose rather than be a routine.

thanx and yeah i know, read my reply to eternalstar01 on my knowledge of dream yoga . appreciate the thoughts

Originally Posted by eternalstar01

To be honest, I don't know enough about dream yoga to say for sure how its done, but I'm fairly positive it's more than this

I remember reading somewhere that it's tied into "mental mapping," as in, constantly feeding yourself information about your surroundings so you always know where you are and the details so you would notice if something was out of place.

It MAY also have to do with just that state of awareness of yourself. I don't really ask myself all day long if I'm dreaming or not. But what I do is I try to engage all of my senses. Like how does my body feel (I'm generally achy because I'm old ), what can I smell, what can I hear and (the obvious) what can I see? Just generally experiencing what it feels like to be awake and alive.

It's funny... dreaming feels real - everyone makes that dismissal. "This can't be a dream, it feels too real!" And yet, being awake feels nothing like a dream! Sooner or later, you'll just know



This is why it's a popular choice to combine two, but, I'm in the same boat. RC's fail ALL THE TIME for me, in dreams. I stopped doing them... sort of. My reality check while I'm awake is to question whether this is a dream. I ask myself what I was doing 5 minutes ago. 10? What am I wearing? Do I remember putting it on? Does everything around me make logical sense? I ONLY reality check if its something worth checking to. Like I watch a car drive the wrong way down the 1-way street outside my work. I "missed" a stop in my head while on the train (meaning, I don't remember passing it).

In dreams... I just know. So I don't reality check when I'm actually dreaming. Because I've lost two lucid dreams due to RC's failing, or arguing whether this is a dream or reality.

It's hard to pinpoint what waking techniques will work best for any person, just because our brains are all wired differently to lucid dreams. I don't benefit at all from frequent reality checks. Even then, when a reality check finally did manifest itself in my dreams, I just marveled that it popped up, but never once stopped to think what that meant, so no lucidity there!

awesome! much appreciated, and i know there's more to dream yoga than this i read a whole book on it and did a bunch of research i was just summing it up. there's maintaining constant awareness, guru yoga, cleansing breathing, remembering the day as a dream, praying for success, visualizations of letters in the chakras, etc. i've tried it all and i greatly appreciate your input! i think it's refreshing to hear someone agree with me on the state test things! i always hear people say "you can't adjust light in dreams" and almost every time i hear that i have a dream where i do lol! i will try to think the way you suggest! thanx!