Information on the Sci-fis

[nesgirl119]

Sci-fi FAQs 1) What is a sci-fi? a) Abbreviation for science fiction, & in this case, it is a very special type of dream. 2) What are the differences between a sci-fi & an LD? B) Real time, places, & events are the same as in reality. 3) What makes it like a dream? c) There are 2 of you in the sci-fi. The main you, which is in the white robe, & the secondary you, or your duplicate is unconscious on your bed. You cannot touch matter w/o going through it, & people will ignore you if they are not in the white robe. 4) What does the Blue/Pink/Purple sash stand for? d) Well, in my opinion, it kind of helps lead you back to your bed, as it extends & ends at the bedroom. Rumors also have it that it stands for your life, or something..This also has an emergency trigger on it, that will send you rushing back to your bedroom. 5) Why do they start in bed? e) Well, b/c they always start off like a FA. Must be b/c of that restraint. 6) Is there more than 1 type of sci-fi? f) Yes....there are 2 ways of sci-fi'ing: Unintended Sci-fi's & Pressured Sci-fis. 7) What is an Unintended Sci-fi? g) it is when you have a sci-fi when you don't expect to have one! 8 ) What is a Pressured Sci-fi? h) it is when you force yourself to have a sci-fi (by using SP to help you). Pushing yourself out of bed is a Pressured Sci-fi. 9) Why can I not wake up unless I go BTB? i) It seems to vary within individuals. Most of the time, it is b/c you are somehow lacking the energy needed to awaken. Some people can use their sashes to go back, & some can teleport back. 10) Can I walk into someone's dream through a sci-fi? j) Yes....but enter at your own risk, b/c you are entering foreign territory. 11) How do you sci-fi? k) Put yourself into the SP position, then struggle & push. You should be shaking hard & feel slightly staticy. Eventually, you'll push yourself into the sci-fi. That is the Pressured Sci-fi, & there is no method to the unintentional sci-fi, but it can happen to Dream Sages & Administrators eventually. 12) Why do people ignore me? l) For some reason, they don't notice you. The only way to get them to is to walk into their dreams, or go to a guy that has 4-d sight. 13) I cannot eat in someone else's dream! What is wrong?! m) It seems that the effect doesn't go away, b/c you cannot eat in another's dream. 14) Why are my friends in the white robe & have 2 of them? n) They must be having a sci-fi, too. Have fun w/them 15) Wow! I saw my great Grandpa.....but I thought that he was dead? o) Communication w/the dead is very common in sci-fis. Happens all the time. The key difference is that their sash does not extend like yours. 16) What dream acronyms would you combine here? p) WILD, FA, & Real Life I hope that this answers the questions that newbies have on Sci-fi'ing.

[dreamboat]

Are you just talking Astral Projection here ?.

[nesgirl119]

Uhh...no, b/c that scares me too much.....& I think these are just VERY realistic WILDs that start in your bedroom!! Also, there is a major difference in pressured sci-fis & unintended Sci-fis. I really love making my sash go back to my bed really fast. WEEE!

[dreamboat]

Isn't the Sash similar to the "Silver Cord" often decribed ?.

[Alaurast78]

How did you learn about this? Is it your very own technique? It will probably be very different for every person. I believe that you are describing something very close to WILD. Have you had a WILD and in your experience what is the difference? I could probably come up with a bunch of other questions because what you told me only explains some of it. I'll get back to you.... but for now there ya go!

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by dreamboat Isn't the Sash similar to the \"Silver Cord\" often decribed ?. well, it is blue, so probably not!! Also, when my 2 friends Michelle & Cody have Sci-fis, they have pink ones, but all sashes are the same. If they are severed you will die (which really is the only way to die from a LD). I just found the emergency trigger, & when I trigger it...I go really fast BTB backwards, which I think is quite thrilling! Also, the sashes may be tight, but they are pretty soft, if you ask me , & I really don't think that there is any way to severe a sash, b/c it is as fine as the material a sci-fi'er is made of. Also, ever heard of a duplicate??!!

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Alaurast78 How did you learn about this? Is it your very own technique? It will probably be very different for every person. I believe that you are describing something very close to WILD. Have you had a WILD and in your experience what is the difference? I could probably come up with a bunch of other questions because what you told me only explains some of it. I'll get back to you.... but for now there ya go! Well, okay I'll bite! Well, I got this technique when I knew nothing about LDs, or anything like that. It just hit me like that! The very 1st one was actually a non-LD (& the only one I had, b/c I almost thought & felt like I was dead...) About the WILDs, there are 2 major differences: When I start to move in an imaginary place (after going through WILD), then I know for sure. In a Sci-fi, it kind of feels like you are actually getting up out of bed, & you feel as light as a person in outer space, & unlike in regular WILDs, you can actually do some remote viewing (or what the flip it is called). I hope that gives you more answers on this!

[ShadowVengance]

your a fulking idiot. your just calling known techniques by retarded names, sci-fi's are movies, don't ruin that for me. I'm tired of everyone being nice to you about this and treating you like a special needs person. did you read or do any research on lucid dreaming, ever? thats it, take as much offense to this as you want, i really dont care, and im not coming back to read your replies, and to the rest, yes I'm an ass, I dont care.

[Alaurast78]

Originally posted by ShadowVengance your a fulking idiot. your just calling known techniques by retarded names, sci-fi's are movies, don't ruin that for me. I'm tired of everyone being nice to you about this and treating you like a special needs person. did you read or do any research on lucid dreaming, ever? thats it, take as much offense to this as you want, i really dont care, and im not coming back to read your replies, and to the rest, yes I'm an ass, I dont care. Shadow that's a little harsh! I know she has some different ideas. Here on Dream Views we are all allowed to have our views or techniques that works for us and well we can call them whatever we want. I personally think that nesgirl’s techniques are very similar to WILD or OBE! She just does it a little different and calls it something else. Let her have her ideas. We can read her posts or not... your choice. No need to get all pissy. Freedom of speech man!

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by ShadowVengance your a fulking idiot. your just calling known techniques by retarded names, sci-fi's are movies, don't ruin that for me. I'm tired of everyone being nice to you about this and treating you like a special needs person. did you read or do any research on lucid dreaming, ever? thats it, take as much offense to this as you want, i really dont care, and im not coming back to read your replies, and to the rest, yes I'm an ass, I dont care. Look! I call it that, b/c 1) It is very similar in a way to a Science Fiction story, I mean think about it, flying, going through stuff, or having an unconscious duplicate. 2) It is different from just a simple LD 3) The name doesn't scare me (I am thanatophobic) You really need to chill. I did research on LDing, but nothing in the Sci-fis matches what I see in the category. Look, I know that I am behind mentally in years(basically when I was little, I didn't really develop speech until I was 4. Also, my independece in person makes me act funny in public, but not in LDs), but making fun of me about it is not funny. I really don't care if you don't ready them, & if you can call yourself a donkey, I can call myself a stupid moron, okay? So I wouldn't do it.

[Alaurast78]

Originally posted by nesgirl119 Look! I call it that, b/c 1) It is very similar in a way to a Science Fiction story, I mean think about it, flying, going through stuff, or having an unconscious duplicate. 2) It is different from just a simple LD 3) The name doesn't scare me (I am thanatophobic) You really need to chill. I did research on LDing, but nothing in the Sci-fis matches what I see in the category. Look, I know that I am behind mentally in years(basically when I was little, I didn't really develop speech until I was 4. Also, my independece in person makes me act funny in public, but not in LDs), but making fun of me about it is not funny. I really don't care if you don't ready them, & if you can call yourself a donkey, I can call myself a stupid moron, okay? So I wouldn't do it. Honey don't listen to him!!! You don't need to call yourself a moron or defend your point to him at all... just let it slide. Ok on with the topic!!!!

[nesgirl119]

Okay. Well, let me do this 1st: In your opinion, what do these Sci-fis stand for?

[Alaurast78]

Are you asking me? and if so why?

[Alric]

Basicly it sounds like astral projection but she doesn't want to call it that. A lot of people believe astral projection is really just a lucid dream. So theres nothing wrong with calling it something else. It really does sound like astral projection in every way. I personally think they are just dreams and it sounds like we are talking about the same thing.

[Mystical_Journey]

I think the information you supplied on "Sci-Fi's " is really helpful nesgirl, its an interesting concept.....THANKS! I dont understand why people would get 'defensive', if nesgirl has found a 'technique' that helps her to travel in her dreams or in her 'sci-fis', it helps to reinforce the concept of lucid travel if you construct your personality around your experiences, just as long as you dont lose sense of 'reality' and the outside world. I think its a great idea to Personify Dreaming with your own Meaning/Classification and Understanding, instead of follow and blindly excepting literature based on the experience. Image what people said to LaBerge when he created terms like WILD, MILD etc….. Its good you don’t standardise the experience through separated description nesgirl, I really respect you for that…your an individual and sometimes people can appreciate that.

[Seeker]

This is way beyond my abilities. I'm still trying to return to my bedroom in an LD and find my sleeping body as discussed in the Second Ring of Power. This does sound a lot like the concept of developing a double. If anyone is interested, research the concept as presented by Carlos Castaneda. It is amazing how all of lucid dreaming, AP, and such tie into his writings. I know, many of his teachings have been discredited, but it is still really amazing.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Seeker This is way beyond my abilities. I'm still trying to return to my bedroom in an LD and find my sleeping body as discussed in the Second Ring of Power. This does sound a lot like the concept of developing a double. If anyone is interested, research the concept as presented by Carlos Castaneda. It is amazing how all of lucid dreaming, AP, and such tie into his writings. I know, many of his teachings have been discredited, but it is still really amazing. Well, okay. It is just that I think that they are LDs, but I could be wrong, b/c to tell you the truth, there are things you should know about. I am indeed a shroom (meaning that sometimes I cannot tell if I am awake in real life), & my fears increase my feelings & doubts. Also, I never chose to have Sci-fis. It happened about 12 1/2 years after I started WILDing every night, but I kind of like them a little, too! Also, don't move this to the Beyond Dreaming area, please!

[Mystical_Journey]

I know this is off topic but how old are you nesgirl? if you have been having WILD's for 12 years, you either started early or have been having Lucid Dreams for alot time, maybe in 12 years time i can do the stuff you can do (lol). Seeker: I'm ordering The Art of Dreaming from Amazon tonight looking forward to reading it. For some reason i have been mixed up with the authors Carlos Castaneda and Paulo Coelho.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Mystical_Journey I know this is off topic but how old are you nesgirl? if you have been having WILD's for 12 years, you either started early or have been having Lucid Dreams for alot time, maybe in 12 years time i can do the stuff you can do (lol). Seeker: I'm ordering The Art of Dreaming from Amazon tonight looking forward to reading it. I am only in my Junior year in high school. And actually, I have had WILDs for 14 years. What I was saying is that I had them for 12 years b4 I started to have Sci-fis. I bet you could, but in actuality, if I don't WILD, I get insomnia!

[Mystical_Journey]

So you have been having WILD's since you were born? thats amazing. Im interested in you Sci-fi's, if you could describe them to someone, how would you sum them up? Do you refer to the sci-fi as a part of the 'dreaming' experience or the content of your dreams are like sci-fi movies? I once had an interesting Sci-Fi dream about a year ago when i was running around this maze with a friend, we were trying to hide from these moving lazers that surrounded the complex, we tried to get to the mainframe to shut down the power supply, the maze kept moving around and we had to move away to avoid the lazers.

[nina]

Nesgirl...I think it's great that you have established your own "sci-fi" things. That's really cool. I think that some people just have a problem with it because you seem to talk like you are some authority on the matter...which you are not. No where does anyone else ever talk about sashes or the like. The closest thing to your sash that I can imagine is the silver cord that people say they see when they have OBEs...and that if that cord is severed you will die. I personally am not sure if I believe this. And how do you know that if your sash is cut that you will die?? I am not asking you to cut your sash and find out, but really if it's never happened how can you know? Also, it does seem like you are just renaming already existing terminology...just because you are afraid of the words astral projection and obe or whatever...but it confuses people. So you should expect to get comments from people who are frustrated and confused by what you are talking about. You assume we all should know this because you are a "dream sage" or whatever. So do you think you could at least TRY to accept that there is already established terminology for what you are talking about? That way, maybe the members on the forum can actually learn from your techniques rather than being turned away by your comments because they are difficult to understand and use terminology that just doesn't make any sense. And I am not meaning to be attacking you in this post at all so please don't get all defensive with me like you typically do. I am just trying to be helpful.

[Jammy]

I understand what ShadowVengance means, not by attacking you but ive also been confused many times when hearing the name Sci-fi around at the forum. Its like you say tomato and i say banana, two differnt things, and at the same time i think we talk about the same . But it depends what one lie in the words. But you also mean that it isnt either AP nor LD and that is what makes it a bit confusing. Cause what you describe really looks like a AP/OBE to me. Even if you describe your Sci fi's as alot differnt than others, we have to take the personality in account, since everyone has a uniq personality. And just like in a LD/Non LD as in a AP/OBE each of us will experience the same thing looking different, for both of us. Originally posted by nesgirl119 well, it is blue, so probably not!! Also, when my 2 friends Michelle & Cody have Sci-fis, they have pink ones, but all sashes are the same. If they are severed you will die (which really is the only way to die from a LD). I just found the emergency trigger, & when I trigger it...I go really fast BTB backwards, which I think is quite thrilling! Also, the sashes may be tight, but they are pretty soft, if you ask me , & I really don't think that there is any way to severe a sash, b/c it is as fine as the material a sci-fi'er is made of. Also, ever heard of a duplicate??!! As dreamboat asked, the silver cord is only a methaphor. Robert Monroe wrote in his \"Astral Projection\" book; that he have experienced the Silver cord with many differnt forms, like for example a long sheet of folding paper you use on old computers. And in a AP/OBE if the Silver Cord is sewered somehow you will also die. Its the life line as you say, that is connected to your double. Originally posted by nesgirl119 k) Put yourself into the SP position, then struggle & push. You should be shaking hard & feel slightly staticy. Eventually, you'll push yourself into the sci-fi. That is the Pressured Sci-fi, & there is no method to the unintentional sci-fi, but it can happen to Dream Sages & Administrators eventually. That is definitly an AP/OBE One thing i find interesting in your summery of Sci-fi is the question where you ask if you can enter others dreams? I believe that you can do so but have never ever done it... but have you really done it or know others that have done it? It would be quite a motivation boost! So i wonder if we can draw the conclusion that a Sci-fi is an AP/OBE? Its the same what one calls it, but just that we talk of the same thing? That would atleast make it easier for me to grasp . Ive read many of your posts and see that you have had quite many experiences, but your stories confused me when i didnt really understand the terms you were using.

[Alric]

Her example of a Sci-fi is a text book example of AP. With dreaming everyone is different. A lot of the time people experience things completely different from each other. Even two people doing the same exact thing, like a WILD can get different result. In this case however, they are exactly the same. You are in real time, just like an AP. You can see people, which you can do in an AP. The sash is like the cord in AP. I never heard of anything like that in anything but AP. You always start in your bed in an AP. A Pressured Sci-fi is a common way to AP. You get into SP and you "push" out of your body. You explain it just like other people do, with the sounds and stuff. Seriously, I couldn't find a better example of AP if you looked for a website explaining it and copied it. I would just say they are AP but you believe AP are only dreams.

[Mystical_Journey]

I think its really helpful what Nina said.

[nesgirl119]

On the other hand, I still think that they are just clairvoint LDs. I am a shroom, though, so it may not matter at this point. Also, my thanatophobia can also cover up truths, too! Also, I did not say that if I cut off my sash, I would die. My boss said that, b/c he once had Sci-fis, too! Also, I know that when my 2 friends have Sci-fis, we hang out, go soaring over the world, remote view, or we might argue over whether these are officially dreams or not. It is really funny, though. When I start to argue w/Michelle about this being a LD (she knows that I am a shroom!), & she says that it isn't, I say it is, & we keep going, Cody just says, "While you 2 argue, the night is young, I will do some sight-seeing!" http://I'm interested in you Sci-fi'...sci-fi movies? Mostly, it is part of the Dreaming experience. Okay, I will give you several reasons why I call it a Sci-fi: 1) If you float like a person in the solar system, that is very sci-fi like 2) I haven't really heard of anything but Sci-fis contain your unconscious duplicate! 3) Entering foreign dream territory is only seen in Sci-fis or DSing! 4) A sash......used to get home....what is it for. Sounds like a flying sash in a Sci-fi! 5) Other Sci-fi'ers can play with you! Definitely Sci-fi!! Okay, & I admit that I am a scaredy cat, too. If anything is mentioned & happens to be in the death word category (ie: Body, Corpse, Spirit, Afterlife, etc), I totally freak out. It is a phobia I have had for years.