Anyone need help with Psi? just ask....

[cd27]

if you guys need any help with psi (liek what it is, how to use it, some techs, other stuff liek that) just ask me. i'll be more than happy to tell. also, if you want, i can take on two members at a time for lessons. please, if you want to be taught, i would like for you to already know the basics. go to www.psipog.net and look at the articles there. in fact, there is ever a step by step guide to get you in the right track. after you have read that, then and only then will i give lessons. my lessons are for people who are already introduced to the basics. cd

[kimpossible]

I would like a demonstration, please! Where and when are you available?

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by cd27 if you guys need any help with psi (liek what it is, how to use it, some techs, other stuff liek that) just ask me. i'll be more than happy to tell. also, if you want, i can take on two members at a time for lessons. please, if you want to be taught, i *would like for you to already know the basics. go to www.psipog.net and look at the articles there. in fact, there is ever a step by step guide to get you in the right track. after you have read that, then and only then will i give lessons. my lessons are for people who are already introduced to the basics. cd I would be careful here if I were you. There are some skeptics on this website that can be quite mean to believers. However, I don't mind if you tell me them at all, b/c there are some I believe in, & some I remain neutral about!

[I dream in pink]

Id love to be taught, however, I find it very hard to get to grips with psi and although Ive read up on some of the basics, they didnt seem to help haha. I showed my friend a link of how to do psi stuff and she said she did it almost straight away ( the psi ball thing) but she seems to be a natural in OBEing aswell haha, shes the one who told me about it. I just cant do anything like that haha.

[cd27]

well, diff ppl have better or worse responses. you jsut ahve ot believe in yourself and stay wit it. if you give up, you'll never do it. cd

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by cd27 well, diff ppl have better or worse responses. you jsut ahve ot believe in yourself and stay wit it. if you give up, you'll never do it. cd Well, don't say I didn't warn you... Tell us more...entertain us!!

[kimpossible]

I wouldn't want anyone to teach me anything that they can't do themselves. So you're going to either need to demonstrate it or admit that you can't and you're just winging it.

[cd27]

i have already admitted that i can not personally do these things...but there are others who can and have shown me...but to demonstrate something, you must see it face to face. it's not something that can be posted on teh interenet and beleived...b/c of how our technology is today. i will train those who are willing, but do not ask for a demonstration, for i can not give one. that's just liek going up to math genius and saying hey...b/c you haven't actually built a rocket yet, but you have the math formulas and everything else and you know exactly how to liek it's the back of your hand...i won't trust you to teach me how to make a rocket....that's lame. cd

[Seeker]

Originally posted by cd27 that's just liek going up to math genius and saying hey...b/c you haven't actually built a rocket yet, Math genius's don't build rockets, they create and prove mathematical theories. They are also able to teach their knowledge to others. By the same token, I assume Psi experts practice Psi abilities and are able to teach others to use Psi. I have grave doubts about a math genius that cannot himself solve mathematical problems.

[kimpossible]

Darn. I was all ready to pounce on that one - but'cha beat me to it.

[cd27]

eh..doubts you may have, and they are in fact justified...but are false. i know what i'm talking about..now the actual reason i can't do psionics is because of some other force holding me down. i have attemted, and been successful to an extent, but something keeps blocking me. so it's not that i can't do it, it's that somene else won't let me. cd

[TygrHawk]

Originally posted by cd27+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cd27)</div> i have already admitted that i can not personally do these things[/b] And yet... <!--QuoteBegin-cd27 so it's not that i can't do it Which is it? And I'm with Seeker and Kim -- I wouldn't want somebody trying to teach me something they can't do themselves. OTOH, there's the old saw "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

[cd27]

it's the second one......anyways...this is for ppl who are needing help in psi....not skeptics... cd

[Seeker]

Originally posted by cd27 .....anyways...this is for ppl who are needing help in psi....not skeptics... Just curious cd, this is not an attack, just curious. How many people have you helped here at dreamviews already and with which powers?

[TheKnife]

Well, uh, i'd like to learn. I'm not like "Duh, it's all fake!" and i'm not like "Of course it exists" I'm more like "Maybe." This is where i'm going with it: If i don't believe in it, and it does exist, i can't learn. If i do believe in it, and it doesn't exist, no harm done!

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by TheKnife Well, uh, i'd like to learn. I'm not like \"Duh, it's all fake!\" and i'm not like \"Of course it exists\" I'm more like \"Maybe.\" This is where i'm going with it: If i don't believe in it, and it does exist, i can't learn. If i do believe in it, and it doesn't exist, no harm done! Same here! I remain neutral about it!

[kimpossible]

So I have this neighbor that doesn't know how to drive. How about we get her to teach you how to drive? She, like CD by his own admission, is very qualified. She might have seen someone else drive once, but it's unconfirmed.

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by nesgirl119 Same here! I remain neutral about it! That's not a neutral position, if you "believe in" it. Such investigations shouldn't be guided through an advocacy continuum anyways (pro-, con-, neutral). We should decide what we want to look for and then investigate. It's not a vote. And if you believe in it, and it doesn't exist, then harm can be done! To illustrate, harm can be done if I stand in front of a train and believe there's some barrier that will protect me, if in fact there isn't. But in this case harm can be done by wasting a lifetime in a frivolous pursuit, or wasting the time and resoures of others, or any other opportunity cost.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Ex Nine That's not a neutral position, if you \"believe in\" it. Such investigations shouldn't be guided through an advocacy continuum anyways (pro-, con-, neutral). We should decide what we want to look for and then investigate. It's not a vote. And if you believe in it, and it doesn't exist, then harm can be done! To illustrate, harm can be done if I stand in front of a train and believe there's some barrier that will protect me, if in fact there isn't. But in this case harm can be done by wasting a lifetime in a frivolous pursuit, or wasting the time and resoures of others, or any other opportunity cost. What I mean by that is that I am not a skeptic nor a believer...I fall somewhere in between!

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by nesgirl119 What I mean by that is that I am not a skeptic nor a believer...I fall somewhere in between! "Skeptic" should not be equated with the opposite of belief, which is disbelief. I don't mean to pick on you but this is such a common misconception that we should do our part to clarify it. Being skeptical means being open to conflicting possibilities!

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Ex Nine \"Skeptic\" should not be equated with the opposite of belief, which is disbelief. I don't mean to pick on you but this is such a common misconception that we should do our part to clarify it. Being skeptical means being open to conflicting possibilities! I really don't doubt them, but I have to see it to believe it....I am not skeptical, but I really don't know what to believe unless I see it for myself!

[Ex Nine]

Word... ain't nuttin' wrong with that.

[Placebo]

Actually, that's just another misconception of the word 'skeptic' To be skeptical means that you question everything ... not swallow it whole. It does NOT mean that you deny the affability of every theory simply because you don't like it. ie. skepticism IS the middle ground between critics and believers, in many ways at least. BTW, welcome Ex-Nine

[adamL28]

um....is there room for lessons for me? I have never really believed in it but after coming across these topics I am now somewhat neutral. And there is no harm in trying, if I can, I would love to!

[Oneironaut Zero]

I'd like to hear more about the demonstration that cd claims he saw. What is it that this person did? Did it actually happen, and are you sure you weren't being duped if it Did happen? I don't want to hear about something you read happened, but something you actually saw with your own eyes, with your word that it's true. Of couse I can't opt to believe or disbelieve you, I'd simply like you to elaborate on what you 'witnessed,' and possibly to the 'extent' that you say you've been successful. Pseudoskepticism is the popular term for the type of skepticism many people here are talking about, where the 'skeptic' is more out to Disprove that something exists, without himself having proof it its nonexistence, than someone who is simply questionable of its existence. A true skeptic is the latter, and is still open to the possibility that something exists. Thats where I lie. So cd, any more insight into your evidence that psi abilities exist? I'd love to hear your alleged experiences.