Thread: Higher planes and how to get there

I am interested in both modern science and esoteric studies and I'm trying to find a bridge between them as I believe they attempt to do the same thing, which is to figure out our universe just with different methods. After learning about Einsteins general relativity I had an idea of how to explain higher planes such as the astral. The main thing about it is time which isn't defined very well, not in science and not in esoteric studies. I thought about time a lot until I could figure what it actually is and how it works trough all dimensions. The main conclusion is that there is a distinction between perceptual time and actual time and some ideas of how to manipulate them.

This is a post from my thread in science and mathematics which is my attempt to explain higher planes through modern science. At the end of it are some ideas of how to manipulate time to get to higher planes or dimensions if you will.



Yeah I can't find any better explanation than general relativity for actual time dilation now that I more or less understand it. But what I figured out from understanding it, is the same thing I couldn't explain very well in my idea. There is a perceptual time dilation and actual time dilation just like there is perceptual time and actual time.

Perceptual time is the time we perceive with our frequency of perception. Frequency of perception is the rate at which our brain or our consciousness replays the events that are perceived by our senses to our conscious experience, every tick of it registers perceptual time. It is not the actual time of reality this is an illusion. It is the same as when you are bored and time seem to flow slowly and when you are exited it seem to flow too fast.

Actual time is the time that is registered when the events of the universe affect us. In other words actual time is registered when waves of information of what needs to happen at the next reference point reach it from the previous one with the speed of light and apply their effects on the new one. This is the real deal of reality. It is not an illusion. This is what makes everything happen in our physical universe (by not being frozen in time) and what makes you age.

Perceptual time dilation is what happens in special relativity. Since we perceive the light travel a longer path in our inertial frame while observing another frame that moves very fast, we think that the other frame's time is delayed. Because just as light, waves of information are also delayed as they travel at the same speed of light. The other frame can say the exact same thing about us and it doesn't even matter who moves and who is not as long as there is no acceleration or gravity nearby. In reality none of those frames have actual time dilation, their actual time flows regularly and they age at the same rate regardless of what they perceive about each other. This dilation is just an illusion.

Actual time dilation is what happens in general relativity. Noticeable actual time dilation is caused by extreme gravity (like near a massive star) or acceleration at speeds close to the speed of light. The force of the gravity field or the force that it takes to accelerate an object with mass at speeds near the speed of light is so strong that it bends space-time. light and information waves follow the curvature of the bend and thus delayed by the longer path and create actual time dilation. The stronger the force the deeper the curvature and the longer is the dilation. Which mean it will take more time for an information wave to reach the next reference point and deliver it's effects and thus register actual time. This is not an illusion if your actual time is delayed you will age more slowly.

The limits:

Black hole: gravity is infinite, time stops. Light and information waves can't escape black holes as it is not a bend in space-time it's a hole!, they can't deliver their effects and the result is the stopping of actual time. No aging, No illusion.

Light speed: not possible to achieve for matter with mass except for black holes. Actual time stops because if you travel at the same speed as the information waves they will not be able to catch you and deliver their effects and thus register actual time. No aging, No illusion.

Higher planes or dimensions:

I believe that higher planes are beyond those limits in a way that the matter that comprises higher planes constantly move faster than the speed of light (Surely it doesn't have a physical mass or it's equivalence as it is not physical and thus can achieve that). This means that the events in higher planes happen faster than what we can perceive with our physical senses or measurement tools. Actual time in the physical plane somehow intersects with the events in higher planes, so when it stops in the physical planes it doesn't stop at higher planes as they continue to affect the physical plane. I believe that this intersection of actual time between planes or dimensions is the key to time travel. Traveling to the future is possible in one dimension by actual time dilation traveling backwards would require multidimensional travel.

Crossing the limits:

It is not possible to witness higher dimensions with a physical body (hint hint astral body). The higher planes are not physical thus to get there you need to lose the thing that makes you physical and that is mass and it's equivalent energy. The only particles that can reach the speed of light are massless like photons, they are borderline as we can still perceive and measure them however they are not affected by physical actual time and thus they create the constant light speed regardless of a reference frame. I think photons and other borderline particles might still have an energetic property that makes them part of the physical planes and thats why they can't travel faster than light and we can still measure them.

The bottom line is that every dimension have an energetic property in the matter that it consist of that limits them to their current dimension. Actual time can be stopped in a dimension but it intersects with other dimensions and is governed by events that happen with matter on all dimensions. To move to a higher dimension you need to lose an energetic property that binds you to your current dimension. There is probably a set amount of energetic properties you can lose before you turn into nothingness and thus the amount of dimensions is limited.

The work around physics (abusing the illusion):

The work around assumes that your consciousness has senses for higher dimensions. You cannot perceive them because your higher perception is obscured by the lowest physical plane's physical perception. To understand how that happens we need to imagine how physical frequency of perception works. Every time you perceive something with your physical senses you replay it with the frequency of perception and register perceptual time. During this one tick of perceptual physical time, many other events happened on higher planes as well, much faster than the speed of light and much faster than what you can perceive physically. And you get to experience what you got in this one tick but only what you perceived physically, as the other things happened way too fast to register.

So from this we can figure that if we want to perceive higher planes such as the astral we need to somehow stop our physical frequency of perception and let the higher frequency of perception register events from higher planes. This is easier said than done because the physical frequency of perception keeps ticking as long as you perceive physically. To stop perceiving physically you need to be either dead, unconscious, moving at light speed, in a black hole, or at least asleep. From all of these I think sleep would be the best option to explore. The problem with sleep is that even though you partially stop your physical senses you still dream, your brain keeps your physical frequency of perception ticking, though to imaginary events that are replayed from your memories rather than reality. So it is not so easy to get to the astral from sleep but were getting closer.

Experimental Control of the frequency of perception:

We can notice ourselves that when we are bored time seem to flow slowly and this is the perceptual time, on the other hand if we are having fun and are excited time seem too fly by. What if we could make our perceptual time stop? I mean like try to get to a point when it is so boring that you think time is frozen. This is kinda what meditation in many ancient cultures tries to achieve. I guess the highest point of meditation is being able to stop perceptual time by stopping the physical frequency of perception and by that allowing yourself to get to a point from which you can perceive the higher planes. Or maybe it is possible to increase the frequency of perception by such amount that it will register events that happen faster than the speed of light. Intuition tells me that the first option is closer to what we want to achieve.

Sleep and lucid dreaming:

Problem is that meditation that achieves such high results requires a lot of hard work and dedication, and usually stopping the physical frequency of perception makes you pass out and fall asleep. Maybe there is a shortcut in our sleep (especially in lucid dreaming). In lucid dreaming we are already passed out as in we partially disabled our physical senses from the outer physical reality problem is we still have illusions from our memories that the frequency of perception keeps replaying and ticking. We can have lots of fun with those illusions but none of it will be reality. Perception of the higher dimensions will be reality just not the physical one

In lucid dreaming we are passed out with control. We need to use this control to stop the physical frequency of perception that keeps ticking even in our dreams, then we should be able to either perceive the higher planes or at least reach a point from which it is possible (because maybe you need to somehow adjust your higher frequency for the perception of higher planes). The idea is the same as in waking life you get bored to reduce the frequency or you get excited to increase it.

The idea in reaching a higher plane trough sleep from a physical perspective is that while you asleep actual physical time keeps affecting you and you keep aging as you do not stop it by sleeping because you are still alive and well. However you stop your physical frequency of perception in your physical senses and thus able to remove the obscurity of the physical plane from the higher planes that keep affecting you during actual time in the physical plane aswell. And thus you don't really move into a higher dimension you just perceive it as it is already here, just obscured by physical reality.

Reality:

The assumption comes from the idea that you exist not only in the physical plane but on all other dimensions aswell at the same actual time, perhaps just as any other thing in the universe. The difference between you and other matter is that you have a very special perception of the universe called consciousness which allows you to experience reality in perhaps a more rich way unlike that of a rock for example. But who knows a rock might have a much more vivid reality than us.

From here the experimentation is yours gentlemen

Tell me what you think and if I might have got anything wrong in my thought process.