How long do you meditate before having an OBE or WILD

[LucidDreamGod]

Just wanted an idea about how long is enough meditation to perform hypnotic taskes such as OBE or WILD.

[polio vaccine]

Takes me a good hour or an hour and a half. But I don't always time it, since it's hard to mark your time of entry into those kinds of states.

[LucidDreamGod]

wow thought it was around 40minuts but it's easily double that, got to try and meditate for an hour today.

[Distant Clone]

I don't know about strict meditation...I mean meditation is nice, but it is relaxing. If I relax too much, I will fall right into sleep. When I do WID, a wake-induced dream that is non-lucid and lasts less than a minute that wakes me right as the finish, I look at the clock and it's usually an hour and a half after I lay down to go to bed. I like to meditate for a while, then think of something to keep my thoughts going. I have to keep thinking, otherwise the vibrations will knock me out, and I'll wake right up. Oh, be sure to lay in the most comfortable position before you start meditating, otherwise that can simply ruin an hour or more of effort. There was one time though, I was really tired. I was able to go right into the vibrations after about a half hour. Being really tired usually doesn't help though because your mind just wants to shut off.

[LucidDreamGod]

Originally posted by DistantClone I don't know about strict meditation...I mean meditation is nice, but it is relaxing. If I relax too much, I will fall right into sleep. When I do WID, a wake-induced dream that is non-lucid and lasts less than a minute that wakes me right as the finish, I look at the clock and it's usually an hour and a half after I lay down to go to bed. I like to meditate for a while, then think of something to keep my thoughts going. I have to keep thinking, otherwise the vibrations will knock me out, and I'll wake right up. Oh, be sure to lay in the most comfortable position before you start meditating, otherwise that can simply ruin an hour or more of effort. There was one time though, I was really tired. I was able to go right into the vibrations after about a half hour. Being really tired usually doesn't help though because your mind just wants to shut off. well I usualy lay on my back, but thats not the way I sleep, I don't know if I can do it well laying on my side, oh and I meditated for 1 hour and 20 minutes today I must say it felt like days where going by, it got realy boring. I also want to know if I can still meditate with a fan on sense I usualy do it that way becouse I hate white noise, you know the ringing in my ears, I have high blood pressure or something.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by LucidDreamGod well I usualy lay on my back, but thats not the way I sleep, I don't know if I can do it well laying on my side, oh and I meditated for 1 hour and 20 minutes today I must say it felt like days where going by, it got realy boring. I also want to know if I can still meditate with a fan on sense I usualy do it that way becouse I hate white noise, you know the ringing in my ears, I have high blood pressure or something. I usually lay on my back to go to sleep as well, but I am still able to relax, maybe stare off into space a bit, but I never truely fall asleep until my body does, b/c I am easily startled during this, & if I am startled, it makes it harder to try to go BTB! BTW, it seems to be alot easier to do it really early in the morn!

[themindsi]

It depends. First of all, I've never had an OBE, I believe I could, but I don't think I'm ready to dable with that yet. For a WID, I can do that in under 10 minutes in any condition (provided I'm tired enough to go to sleep), these for me usually last less than 10 minutes, and I, like Distant Clone, also wake right after these . For a WILD...that really depends. If I haven't been to sleep yet for the night it can take anywhere between 30-90 minutes. If I've been in REM, waken up for an hour+ and then begin WILD, it may only take me 3 minutes before I begin to vibrate and less than 2 to begin an LD. I can continue these LD's for some time, even wake up, go to the bathroom or reposition myself in bed, and then begin LD'ing again.

[LucidDreamGod]

Originally posted by themindsi It depends. First of all, I've never had an OBE, I believe I could, but I don't think I'm ready to dable with that yet. For a WID, I can do that in under 10 minutes in any condition (provided I'm tired enough to go to sleep), these for me usually last less than 10 minutes, and I, like Distant Clone, also wake right after these . For a WILD...that really depends. If I haven't been to sleep yet for the night it can take anywhere between 30-90 minutes. If I've been in REM, waken up for an hour+ and then begin WILD, it may only take me 3 minutes before I begin to vibrate and less than 2 to begin an LD. I can continue these LD's for some time, even wake up, go to the bathroom or reposition myself in bed, and then begin LD'ing again. never know that anyone could WILD in 3 minutes sometimes, ofcourse I'm never all that tired so thats probly why it works good for you, you are like one of my friends who can fall asleep in 5 minutes, well it usualy takes me an hour to an hour and a half to do that, does that relate to the amount of time for WILD?

[themindsi]

Originally posted by LucidDreamGod never know that anyone could WILD in 3 minutes sometimes, ofcourse I'm never all that tired so thats probly why it works good for you, you are like one of my friends who can fall asleep in 5 minutes, well it usualy takes me an hour to an hour and a half to do that, does that relate to the amount of time for WILD? I've LD'd a sporadically since I was a child, but only recently did I really get into it, and I find WILD'ing very easy sometimes. That's not always the case though. Sometimes it takes hours and alot of frustration, but I'm getting better and better. When I was younger I used to focus on hypnagogic dream imagry and force myself to dream (fall asleep). I didn't really get the implications and all that though. I guess it was good practice, because it's sure proved useful!!! I think that being able to fall asleep faster really does relate to WILD because being able to fall asleep quickly means that you are able to quickly put yourself into a state of deep relaxation, which is also required of WILD. Hope that helps!

[LucidDreamGod]

Originally posted by themindsi I've LD'd a sporadically since I was a child, but only recently did I really get into it, and I find WILD'ing very easy sometimes. That's not always the case though. Sometimes it takes hours and alot of frustration, but I'm getting better and better. When I was younger I used to focus on hypnagogic dream imagry and force myself to dream (fall asleep). I didn't really get the implications and all that though. I guess it was good practice, because it's sure proved useful!!! I think that being able to fall asleep faster really does relate to WILD because being able to fall asleep quickly means that you are able to quickly put yourself into a state of deep relaxation, which is also required of WILD. Hope that helps! Ya thanks, I find hypnagogic imagry usefull in WILD and OBE, when I was younger I used to just lay down and look at those images, but they eventualy would go away, but I had to sqeeze my eyes shut to see them, but I find dark locations will have the same effect.

[themindsi]

Originally posted by LucidDreamGod Ya thanks, I find hypnagogic imagry usefull in WILD and OBE, when I was younger I used to just lay down and look at those images, but they eventualy would go away, but I had to sqeeze my eyes shut to see them, but I find dark locations will have the same effect. it seemed so easy when i was a kid, easier when stoned, lol!

[LucidDreamGod]

Originally posted by themindsi it seemed so easy when i was a kid, easier when stoned, lol! Lol, Lucid dreaming was easier back then too

[polio vaccine]

Man, why was everything about ten thousand times better as a little kid? Perhaps the answer is selective memory.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by polio vaccine Man, why was everything about ten thousand times better as a little kid? Perhaps the answer is selective memory. Or maybe it is that kids sleep longer than grown ups! And their REM is supposedly longer than ours!!

[themindsi]

I believe childhood is a magical time which is unmatched and unparalled to any time proceeding it.

[Threeman]

Well if you can call this meditation then I need less than 10 minutes for an OBE. I wake up during the night, go to the toilet, drink some water and then back to bed. Lately I started listening a music tune in my head before an OBE and I't really is fast.I just keep repeating a music tune which gets more intense and then have an OBE.And it's somehow cooler than hearing the same music IRL.