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      Is astral projection against god's will

      I'm always conteplating weather astral projection is against my reiglion or not. Then I asked my friend he said it was a sin. And I asked how but he didn't know why. So then for weeks I asked those who read the bible. THey said they didn't know.

      Finnaly I asked someone with good knowlegde on the subjuct and the bible. So He said thaT it's now against god's will but it is dangerous. (pleaze) The funny thing is that he never refered to it as astral projection but rather as astral planeing.

      Anyway what do u guys think is it a sin or not.

      Please don't tell my god does't exsit. Your just going to watse your breath.

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      I don't think it's ever mentioned in the bible nor can I see any reason it would be a sin.

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      I agree with 27, i dont think it is mentiond in the bible, but here is what i believe.

      1. No i do not believe it is a sin if you just go out and explore the world with your body. If we have the power to do so, i believe that god intented us to use it, in some way. I do not believe that it is dark arts or anything of that sort, but i could be wrong. I'm not god

      2. Yes however, i do believe it is a sin to Astral Project, if you go into other peoples dreams, cause havoc, or do anything that would disrupt or cause someone grief, (of course without there consent, if they say its ok, then hell i say go for it). Dream Sharing is a widely viewed topic, and i say, if you go into someones dreams to cause a nightmare, or to again cause them grief, then it is a Sin, just like in the normal world.

      Thats what i think, again i'm not god, so who knows.

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      I find it to be extremely absurd to group astral projection as a sin. What exactly are you doing to sin? I'm not a Christian anymore, and I'm definetely not embarking on a campaign to belittle you for your beliefs, but I doubt seriously that Jesus Christ (or any god for that matter) would condemn someone for practicing something that sometimes happens spontaneously to unassuming people....

      If you seriously follow the bible, you must understand that subjective interpretation is key when studying it. I refer you to Robert Petersen's book called "Out of Body Experiences: how to have them and what to expect." Here's a link to his free ebook(http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html ) Chapter four should give you some insight.
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      I remember my pastor telling me he had an OBE once but never really elaborated. I don't think exploring around is a sin, but what you do while you're exploring could be a sin. I look at it the same way as Lds, you hold yourself to a standard of what you would do IRL and don't go past that (although alot of people don't believe it is a sin because it is an LD, me included). If they are actual experiences that affect other real people rather than dream characters then doing bad things would be a sin.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 27 View Post
      I don't think it's ever mentioned in the bible nor can I see any reason it would be a sin.
      Actually it was left out of the bible. I was watching part of left out of the Bible 2 on history channel one night and it was talking about how Soloman forgive spelling might have used forms of it in communication when he was wise. There is even a refrence I believe to Jesus talking about being like him on certain things mentioned. When Soloman again forgive spelling went crazy was when he stopped listening to the wisedom through dreams and other methods. So if one man is wise because he listens through dreams and other methods then what does that tell you about reaching God through Astral Projection?

      I believe in God due to my experiences dealing with astral projection. When I was on a spiritual path I had more things happen that were a little bit freaky and confusing then most would believe. The only thing is to not develope a God complex like I did. If you open yourself also create safety. You can pretty much use the astral plane to explore spirituality in itself just be prepared because there are lower beings that will try to confuse while the higher beings will try to help.

      I have no proof that I'm capable of Astral projection other then my personal experiences which I've told in the past. I have worked on astral projection before, but I do not consider myself full christian. I consider myself part Christian and Part buddhist. If you believe Astral Projection is the path to increasing spirituality then go for it because remember Spirituality is higher then any religion and it can be helped to awake higher beliefs.

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      Were all spiritual beings; we carry some sort of energy into the next level into GODs universe. Why would he damn (or considered a SIN) anyone for exploring his multi-dimensional planes in this infinite universe. Were just leaving our "shells" temporarily for spiritual enlightement.. not sure why that would be bad? I think the old religions consider things such as this as un-natural, witchcraft and work of the devil. Its just plain ridiculous.
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      Quote Originally Posted by durza2016 View Post
      I'm always conteplating weather astral projection is against my reiglion or not. Then I asked my friend he said it was a sin. And I asked how but he didn't know why. So then for weeks I asked those who read the bible. THey said they didn't know.

      Finnaly I asked someone with good knowlegde on the subjuct and the bible. So He said thaT it's now against god's will but it is dangerous. (pleaze) The funny thing is that he never refered to it as astral projection but rather as astral planeing.

      Anyway what do u guys think is it a sin or not.

      Please don't tell my god does't exsit. Your just going to watse your breath.
      The concepts of religions are quite complicated. If you believe that almost everyone who dies rots in hell for eternity if they don't fallow the Bible then, yeah, astral projection would reach your standards as a sin.

      But look at what it is. It is a gateway to the worlds after the next. I don't think we would be able to do it if we were not supposed to, right?
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      This is one of the reasons I became Deist. Stupid assumptions from Christians that certain activities are sins and they only say that because someone else told them so.

      I feel bad for them - a lot of them truly believe that hell fire exists in the after-life and are just so... I wouldn't say scared shitless... but, so... gah I can't find the word for it!

      I say no it isn't. I'd say the same morals apply there as here. You know for yourself what is right and wrong - you don't need others to tell you.

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      As a rare occurance as it is, I agree with blade on this one. It's silly to assume that things like this are sins. New things considered as "sin" are just spread around by some fool who thinks he knows what he's talking about, and some gullable group of equally foolish folk.

      Let's take a step back from this all and throw common sense in the matter. First you have to ask yourself, why would this be considered sin? You're not violating any of the teachings of the Bible by engaging in out of body travel. All you're doing is traveling in a different way. Now what you DO on the astral planes is different. But the act of astral projection is not against god's will.

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      Quote Originally Posted by durza2016 View Post
      I'm always conteplating weather astral projection is against my reiglion or not. Then I asked my friend he said it was a sin. And I asked how but he didn't know why. So then for weeks I asked those who read the bible. THey said they didn't know.

      Finnaly I asked someone with good knowlegde on the subjuct and the bible. So He said thaT it's now against god's will but it is dangerous. (pleaze) The funny thing is that he never refered to it as astral projection but rather as astral planeing.

      Anyway what do u guys think is it a sin or not.

      Please don't tell my god does't exsit. Your just going to watse your breath.
      If you use astral projection to help people in a wholsome manner without going against their free will, it is a good thing and not a sin.

      Cheers

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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkMind View Post
      If you use astral projection to help people in a wholsome manner without going against their free will, it is a good thing and not a sin.

      Cheers
      Some might not be able to control what happens though and may have good intensions that get twisted because they aren't advanced enough to fully understand what is happening. Even then you can not say it's a sin, but more part of learning or rising above in order to gain understanding and wisdom. If God is almighty then why does he give us a choice? Wouldn't it be for seen before hand that no matter what happen was meant to happen?

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      of cores it is, after all any thing that may posibly lead you to the truth is a sin like thinking or astonamy (jesus life is an alagorial myth of the stars and the sun's movement among them) pretty much any thing other than being a stupid sheep is a sin after all its supposed to keep you in line so dictators can take advantage of you

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      good point, no what I really meanis that everyone tells me that astral projection is part of the occult and the bible condems the occult.

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      Astral projection is not related to the occult unless you make it to be. The act of projecting is not a sin. What you do once you're in the astral plane is what would determine if it's a sin. It's like asking if walking out of your house is a sin. Of course it's not, but it's possible to do something outside of your house that is a sin.

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      I read a news story once that someone accidentally astral projected into hell... and got stuck there forever! They had to take in an excorcist to even figure out what had happened!
      Last edited by ♥Mark; 08-21-2007 at 12:39 AM. Reason: made it seemingly more credible

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      I think God does not intent mankind to reach those astral planes, otherwise he would have given his prophets some notion and knowledge of them. It may even be one of Satan's trick. There Really is no way of telling... : /

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark75 View Post
      I read a news story once that someone accidentally astral projected into hell... and got stuck there forever! They had to take in an excorcist to even figure out what had happened!
      True story, I was that guy.
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      Quote Originally Posted by goldney View Post
      True story, I was that guy.
      This isn't a joke. It's not funny to mock the dead (he died). Imagine if I made 9/11 jokes.

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      Okay I'm pretty convinced now that astral projection isn't a sin.

      Also how would they know the guy was in hell.

      And besides how do u know if the exorcist was making it up. Or the news was making it up. You don't know.

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      Quote Originally Posted by durza2016 View Post
      Okay I'm pretty convinced now that astral projection isn't a sin.

      Also how would they know the guy was in hell.

      And besides how do u know if the exorcist was making it up. Or the news was making it up. You don't know.
      It's the news, Dozla. No syndicated news corporation would risk their income by jeopardizing their station by running fraudulent news stories.

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      Oh my god, are you serious dude. First off dolza is orginal so I won't knock you on that.

      Let me give a big example of a news report that turned out to be a lie.

      "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction"

      Yep so your saying that just because it's on the news it's true...seriuosly are u for real?

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      On the August 9 edition of his CNN Headline News program, Beck had declared that August 22 "is the day that Israel might be wiped off the map, leading to all-out Armageddon," and "could be the day that agnostics get down on one knee and start to pray, 'Sweet Jesus, are you coming today?' "

      Yep I remember the day in August of 2006 the world ended because I don't. I mean If i'm wrong correct me so. But I have a slight feeling i'm not.

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      Oh my god, are you serious dude.
      Hahahaha. I guess you don't know Mark too well huh. Not to say that I do, but you get used to his sense of humour.

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      Quote Originally Posted by durza2016 View Post
      On the August 9 edition of his CNN Headline News program, Beck had declared that August 22 "is the day that Israel might be wiped off the map, leading to all-out Armageddon," and "could be the day that agnostics get down on one knee and start to pray, 'Sweet Jesus, are you coming today?' "

      Yep I remember the day in August of 2006 the world ended because I don't. I mean If i'm wrong correct me so. But I have a slight feeling i'm not.
      CNN doesn't count.

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