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      Hello Oneironauts;

      I am espsika. i am opening this thread with the sole aim of becoming a successfull Gambler. How possible or realistic this is, i cannot tell. I am leaving it to experience and experienced Lucid dreamers to convince me. i believe in Extra Sensory Perseption (ESP) but i am also a realist. i want to know if its possible to sharpen our intuition via LD to feel or see the out of a football game before its been played.

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      I don't think this is possible in all honesty. I do have to wonder though, what makes you so convinced in ESP that you actually believe it is a real phenomenon? I'm open to the idea but I've neither seen anything convincing nor conclusive suggesting it's a real phenomenon. It would certainly be awesome if it was, but until I get some real empirical evidence of it, I'm not ready to believe in it.

      Just out of curiosity, what does LDing have to do with ESP? Are you suggesting that we're more in tune with whatever provides us with ESP when sleeping, especially while dreaming? I know people claim to have OBEs and AP, but just about every OBEer will admit to at least some inaccuracy during their OBE experience in comparison with waking reality, so that to me says that it's just a form of LD where you're convinced you are floating outside of your body. The OBE phenomenon in text books and understood in the scientific community doesn't state that you're actually outside of your body during an OBE, but rather you perceive yourself to be--a definite, significant difference between what a lot of people in Beyond Dreaming claim. So, since OBEs don't have evidence supporting the idea that you're literally outside of your body, how would LDing be useful for ESP? I mean, then you're getting into predicting the future, which I guess OBEs don't play a part in, but all of the precognitive dream experiences I've read here and other websites are people with confirmation bias who already believe in precog dreams and who claim loosely connected events in their dream narrative and something that happen in real life is proof of precognition. If you have a dream your brother died and then he dies the next month, or even the next day, it's entirely within the realm of probability that it was chance, or that your brother has some sort of terminal illness you already know about and that fact doesn't seem important for whatever reason, lol. In any case, I've heard of these weird time skip precognitive dreams, where something you dreamed of several months ago predicted what just happened to you. I have no idea how people can come to the conclusion it was a precognitive dream in that case, because the probability of something like that happening is even higher than if it happened the very next day.

      Sorry to be such a Debbie Downer but I'm a skeptic and am interested in why you believe in ESP and why you think LDing in particular might help with predicting a future event.

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      Thank you Snoop for being here.
      I believe in ESP because we are spiritual beings. And I think LDing can help with prediction because we see in dreams with our spiritual eyes not physical eyes. from what I read, our subconsciousness is more powerful
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      well if you were interested in football, and watching alot of games you might notice more stuff in a ld for example, this team seems more tired, this team seems more energetic and dedicated to winning so listening to your subconcious might help you make a better decision .

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      Quote Originally Posted by espsika View Post
      ..i am opening this thread with the sole aim of becoming a successful gambler.
      By definition, there's no such thing. A person who places bets and who makes a living from it is not a gambler. It is someone who calculates probability and who then compares the probability with the odds on offer for a particular event.. and if the odds offered are greater than the probability, a bet is struck. That is not gambling, per se. The ethos is simple, but finding such opportunities is hard - they are very rare.

      Quote Originally Posted by espsika View Post
      ..the out of a football game before it's been played.
      Do you mean football (soccer) or american football?

      Because odds/probability-wise, they are two vastly different games. For example, a 'draw' in football (soccer) occurs roughly in 1 in 3.8 games. A 'tie' in american football is much more rare. Ergo, a home or away win in american football is easier to 'predict', using the statistical model.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneiro View Post
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      Do you mean football (soccer).
      i mean football soccer.
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      Well, the way to find out is to try it out. You could, for example, go into a lucid dream and boldly command yourself to become highly intuitive, and obtain the ability to predict the outcome of football matches. And maybe not just do this once, but every time you become lucid during a dream.

      But, apart from that, I think it would be highly adviceable to also practice clair-voyance/remote vieweing/whateveryouwantocallit every day - even if just for a few minutes. It seems unlikely that such a gift should fall into your lap without any real effort on your part.

      You might want to check out some of the many Youtube videos on controlled remote viewing, if you have not already done so.
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      So ... is this the real universe, or is it just a preliminary study?

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