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      Prophetic reoccuring dream of Two moons

      Hello, Im new to this forum but I have been trying to figure out what the meaning of this reoccuring prophetic catestrophic dream I always have means. But before I begin I want to tell you about my dream potential. First off, I've had dream sharing on multiple occasions, I have lucid dreams on a regular basis where I practice flying (I've gotten quite fast at it), manipulation and use of outside energy, going to other worlds (sometimes watching other worlds at war), completely change the scenery like pulling a curtain if I dont like the dream, fight many DC's while flying around with confidence, and even can leave my lucid dream body and can go thousands of miles in a matter of seconds observe the situation and immediately return to my dream body.

      Anyway, the dream I have that always perplexs me is always the same one constantly getting more involved each time with a few minor things different such as the place but a few things always remains the same; Two Full moons suddenly appear in the sky but I'm not shocked at all nor scared, although everyone else is in a panic and rushing to try and avoid what is to come. In the dream there is always a great climatic event in the form of a inescapable tidal wave (due to the pull of the second moon I guess).

      This dream has occured for years, in different times in my life, good and bad. That has led me to believe that I dont think it can be easily written off as a feeling I have at the time. Depending on where Im living at the time I can see what would happen to that area (ie. when I was living in America; I was in an american city in the dream when the wave struck). Sometimes I stay in the dream until the wave hits, other times I wake up before. Now that I'm in Japan the last time I had an involved dream about that I became lucid and projected myself to where the wave was hitting which was either China or Hong Kong (most likely Hong Kong since there were skyscrapers getting hit) and could see the devastation and immediately returned to my dream body in Japan and started to make preparations in a calm matter to go to higher ground knowing full and well that if I could see the wave from Japan and it would be useless to escape but never-the-less calmly continued because I remained lucid and wanted to see more. I also always feel the general year in the dream which is between 2010-2012.

      This may sound crazy but there is also an alien twist to the dream everytime where the first time I had the dream, rumors spread with those that survived the wave saying they live in underground caves and can control the weather as a weapon and also started using effective viral weaponry on the survivors (in the form of boils that pop) to cleanse the earth of humans. Other times they send some sort mechanical unmanned weaponry as a distraction to keep people running from the wave. But all in all, the dream always has those constants; Two moons, a giant world-wide tsunami, and aliens. I've looked on the internet on many occasion to try and find someone with a similar experience or some explanation and to my surprise stumbled across something about some draconian race living in subterranian caves on earth planning an invasion in the coming years, which I had no clue about before my dream. Im sorry if this sounds crazy but I need someone to let me know something regarding this...

      I might just be a 'Lunatic', but the word did derive from people 'living on' or 'obsessed with' the moon (Luna). Which, for some odd reason, I can feel when there is a full moon which in japan was last night, and can feel an earthquake before it happens here which they call 'namazu' (catfish) because catfish go wild in the water before an earthquake.


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      I forgot to site the things I found in reference to alien base part of my dreams... not that I believe this stuff,(the proof is in the paper as they say) but it is still interesting to read about; some people that spoke out were murdered after their lectures on what they know...like a person by the name of Phil Schneider. (especially him talking about america's black budget, underground bases, and railroad cars)

      http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/schneidr.htm

      http://www.spookysdaddy.com/Dulce.html

      http://ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/underground.list/


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      It is true that any objective resource manager would cut the World Population down to just a couple of hundred million without batting an eye. We need only look at the logic applied to the management of Natural Wilderness Areas to know what would happen if the same evaluation models were ever applied to Humanity in general -- they would declare an open hunting season on Human in order to thin out the herd. It had been done before. It is widely suspected now that World War One was a coordinated event initiated by bureaucrats in key positions within all of the World Powers at the time, in order to butcher down the masses which were seen as becoming ever more unrulely and chaotic. It was thought that the recently invented machine guns, fast loading and long range artillery, and innovations in poison gases would return the European Populations to more comfortable numbers with little impact on the only people that mattered -- the Banking Classes. Well, War never works out as the Ruling Classes expect... as the American's are now relearning after the World thought they had learned it in Vietnam.

      But the biggest problem that War creates is the instability of caused by destroying the institutions of law and order and the infrastructures and economies that maintained the populations. Iraq offers a relevent example of how instability can be a far worse problem then even the worst of tyrants -- one tyrant may be very bad, but a couple of thousand barbarians all contending to be the Next Tyrant are far far worse. But the problem of instability would no longer be a problem if it was resolved to simply eliminate complete populations. Survivors would be embittered and hostile, so don't have survivors.

      History remembers the Mongolian Invasion of Persia in the 12th Century. After the Persian Knights had been soundly defeated on the field of battle, their emissories told the Mongolian Generals that the children of Persia would grow up to avenge this defeat. The Mongolians believed them, and so they initiated a nationwide massacre.

      We can also read of how Rome dealt with Carthage. Cato would stand up in the Senate and end each speech, even speeches about augmenting the sewage department or hiring new dog catchers, with the words "Carthage must be destroyed". So, when the walls of Carthage were finally breached, those who were not disposed of through Slavery were completely annihilated, and the fields for hundreds of miles around were salted... it may well have been the beginning of what we now know as the Sahara Desert. We can argue that the Policy was inhumane, but as a political decision it was largely successful. It gave Rome an unrivaled and undisturbed control of the Mediterranean Region which would be undisturbed for close to seven hundred years.

      So, any sensible Alien Power that would decide to manage the World Population would be wise to pick out entire regions and populations which could be entirely eradicated, while leaving other Populations entirely unharmed. The Unmolested Populations, not being antagonized, would not be embittered, and could be used to Colonize the newly made Empty Zones, but now with reasonable population levels.

      Now, regarding the Two Moons. An actual Moon would be very difficult to come by. However, a sophisticated Space Power could unfurl a huge circular Banner made out of a very thin film that would appear to be a Moon. After that, a chain of nuclear explosions down through the centers of both the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans and through the India Ocean would be sufficient to flood out all of the Maritime Cities, destroying at the same time every single sea going cargo vessel. It would certainly destroy every advanced World Economic Power, throwing whoever survived into utter chaos and panic. There would be no Relief Efforts for a Disaster that large. It would quickly become the prevalent wisdom that every man would be better off fending for himself. Anybody with surplus food would not be likely to think of giving it away.

      Regarding your time frame... yes, most End of Time prophecies are projecting 2012 as the year of climax. The Mayan Calendar then runs out. The Marian Apparitions have been speaking of End Times for the last several hundred years, but only recently have been leaving Seers behind with the promise that they would see the End. These seers are now in their 40's and 50's. Saint Malachi of the 11th Century said that a Pope Benedict would be the last Pope, and now we have a Pope Benedict.

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      I took a look at that one URL which recounts the Conspiracy Theories of that one guy who was killed so that his body would be found... huh? I thought that if it was important enough, they could simply just make a person 'disappear'. You know, if the Conspiracy Theory is correct, wouldn't they have had 67,000 helicopters available for dropping his body out into the middle of the ocean?

      Anyway, I looked at the claim that 1.25 Trillion dollars goes into the Black Ops Budget each year or two. The problem with that figure is that there doesn't seem to be enough taxable dollars available for such a budget on one side, nor the same amount of money coming into the economy on the other. Largely, Federal Dollars is not spent on 'stuff' so much as on labor. Raw Materials account for a small percent of value. Most value comes from Value Added which is from Labor. And the U.S. Economy simply does not have Black Ops Workers coming home at night cashing 1.25 Trillion Dollars worth of paychecks every friday night. It would take almost one out of three workers working on a construction job a mile deep in the ground, or fabricating Government Flying Saucers, who would not be able to talk about what they do for a living. And that simply is not happening. I've known hundreds of Americans and I've seen where they worked. And I've been in America, and I haven't seen any huge holes in the ground. You know, you can't have huge Cities under the ground without also having a huge infrastructure on the surface to support them. and the last time I checked, we did not have Walmart workers commuting to work by elevator. Teamster Workers move everything in America. They pick it up from point of Production and drop it off at point of Consumption. If vast supplies were being dropped off at a 'Bottomless Warehouse' somewhere, from which a vast supply of goods simply 'disappeared' into a hole in the ground, we would all know about it. There is no way to keep 1.25 Trillion Dollars quiet. That much money would whistle as it went by.

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      I appreciate a reply to what Ive been dreaming, its been bothering me for the longest time.

      Sorry to play devils advocate on those monetary figures arguement, but here goes;

      havent we spent a ridiculous amount of money on the reconstruction of Iraq alone, already? Imagine what other money has been secretly swept towards at-home projects the public has no clue of? In the end money is just a symbol representing the value of something(which is why america is trillions in debt) if you need more money just say 'add it to my bill', maybe those cost figures dont even factor into the GNP every year because if it showed up on public record people would be able to shed some more light on the black budget but to deny one existing outright is presumptuous. Area 51 is definitely a perfect example of how the government has lied in the past about having an airstrip along with those underground facilities, and now nearly everyone has heard of Area 51 in nevada because of Russian spy plane photographs undercovering it all. How do they get the money for those places, there is no public concensus agreeing of the necessity of said structures nor record of the cost to build said structures. What about Dulce, New Mexico? That is supposed to be even bigger, and if you try and approach close to where the above ground structures can be seen you've already been under surveilence for a long time, have passed many warning signs, and willingly trespassed onto goverment property, in which they can and most likely will shoot you. With the police-state on the rise in america, I definitely feel there is an unspoken agenda with these underground bases. Did you see that site with the percentage of land owned by the federal goverment? its mostly midwest open area where no one could get even strategically close to see anything. Wouldn't be much of a secret if it were in the open now would it?

      BTW did you know at every quarter-mile section on the interstate highway in america there is a unmarked path that continually goes straight, perfect for moving army forces between states quickly. Why would you need that on your own soil? I respect your arguements Leo and would like you to explain more of what you find, please if you could do more research on these underground facilities on my behalf (time provided of course) and let me know if the information smells like a lie. Ive seen pictures of the signs warning people you cant cross or you will be shot in places where there is seemingly nothing. and seen video footage of the black SUV's telling people to go back where they came from unless they would like to be shot but still denying existence of anything there.


      I would like nothing more for my reoccuring dreams to be debunked rather than validated but I feel just as you in the first response, that the course of the future will be a bleak one. Humans consumeristic nature will only get worse before it gets better unless a cataclysmic event on a massive scale happens and opens the minds of all, if any at all are left in the wake.


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      When I read these claims, I thought at first why is an invasion necessary? whats the point really? Why not do it 100's of years ago, why now?

      This is a good one...
      http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r011305a.shtml
      http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r100799k.shtml

      heres the main site (http://www.reptilianagenda.com/)
      Apparently, according to these sites I came across, they have been making underhand dealings with humans for 1000's of years. Which is where the simile can be drawn between the always ever-present serpent being in many cultures and religions seen as evil tempting humans, hell being a place underground, and reports of 'terrifying dragons' flying high in the sky in nearly all cultures since the beginning of time.

      Also, about the necessity of the invasion; The aliens use magnetics for everything, its their basic structure for their energy source. (We call them magnets they call them lodestar) They have been harvesting lodestar for centuries. Not only that, they want ALL the magnetic power on Earth. They intend to continue harvesting that power, now and in the future. As long as we were only useing magnetic power as an oddity, there was no problem. But in recent times, the human race has begun using magnetic power and finding more ways to utilize that commodity. There was a treaty made. In the original treaty, the human race (those representing us) didn't mind at all, 'we' considered magnets as hardly more than useless. As people searched for another source of power, we turned to magnetics and thats where we encroached on their turf.

      Finally, the reason I came across these reptile species is I searched for two moons and invasion and apparently when they invade the majority of the forces will arrive in a planetoid ship from behind the moon.(a seemingly 2nd moon)

      (It seems like a weird science fiction movie I know but hey if you want to read about it its all you, sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. In addition, why would I have dreams prior to hearing anything about this? thats the only thing keeping me from thinking its utter bs)


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      Regarding the great deals of money you say is being spent, again I remind you that most money goes toward wages and salaries. My point is that the money would resurface. The money may be created as a Debt, but it goes into the Money Supply. If too many dollars flood into the World Markets, the dollar would become valueless.

      Yes, there is one factor in our favor, and that is that many people throughout the World, particularly in Asia have no sense that the best use of money is in investing and spending it a high velocity. An Economist once explained to me that an Economy that passes the same Ten Dollar ten times in one day is ten times more active then an economy where the Ten Dollar bill is spent once and then stuffed into the Store Owners mattress until Dooms Day. Unfortunately in the world today, many cultures believe in 'mattress stuffing'. They call it Savings Rate. It is supposed to be a Virtue to save, but actually it is only money hoarding and it slows things down. But, in all intellectual honesty, it would explain what happens to Dollars that would otherwise flood the market and make the dollar virtually valueless. But on my side of it, most of these 1.25 Trillion Dollars in Salary and Wages would go to Americans who save nothing, but would only use their paychecks to carry the interest on their ballooning Credit Card Accounts.

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      Regarding Magnetism, there is nothing to magnetism but the polarized alignment of feris molecules -- you heat up steel or iron until the molecules can be very mobile and and then you put a DC current through it until it cools. Voila, you have yourself a magnet. For a while I was experimenting with magnets. Correctly made you need to be careful when handling magnets that only weight just several ounces, since they can jump up and slam together and break fingers if they are caught in between. But, essentially, they are only lumps of iron -- the cheapest and most common metal on earth.

      Certainly nothing to fight over.

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      Hey SolSyke,
      I've read lots of stuff pertaining to what you described in your prophetic dreams. I've even had some dreams about cataclysmic events. You recommend that you read the material from this website: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm There is a lot of reading on it, but afterwards it will change your perspective on the universe.

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      I'll check it out thanks...


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      Originally posted by Catalyst77
      Hey SolSyke,
      * *I've read lots of stuff pertaining to what you described in your prophetic dreams. I've even had some dreams about cataclysmic events. You recommend that you read the material from this website: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm *There is a lot of reading on it, but afterwards it will change your perspective on the universe.
      Dear Catalyst,

      That one book goes on forever and ever, endlessly, and 99.9% of it is useless and annoying filler. Who cares about her shopping trips, food allergies and new hats! She couldn't find an editor to whip it into shape and so we get that huge self-published mess. Who has time to wade through hey stack after heystack trying to find a needle that other published sources have showcased well enough.

      One of the best pages that include all of this kind of stuff is searchable under "Dire Gnosis 2012".

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      do you have a link leo?


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      Originally posted by SolSkye
      do you have a link leo?
      Sure! It's all a lot of fun... you could spend hours on that Site...

      http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/sm.htm

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      I have spent hours since there since you posted that, thanks for the heads up... maybe my dreams arent as far from reality as I thought. If it does turn out to be real its not like I can do anything about it anyway, but it is calming in a weird way to see that I'm not alone or completely off base in those dreams


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      SolSkye that only adds consistency to what I have been dreaming about.
      Not only fire and winds. But also tital waves and UFOs. The one I posted was merely recent.

      One dream I saw birds all dizzy and flying across the sky while some smashed into buildings and stumbled along the ground. Many dreams I am at a beach and the tide begins to rise very quickly.

      I have had a few dreams where I look at the moon and its not normal. Like a dark red, or different shadows, and even sometimes I have seen 2 moons like yourself.

      I have dreamt about all kinds of weird stuff. The sky falling. comments. Lava. Ufos patrolling. And war and rubble in general. Also the use of holographic filters. which have the ability to create entire rives, or the illusion of them, when they are not even present, And the ability to make them disapear in a blink of an eye. Also strange holographic like objects bouncing across the sky with the same technology.

      One particular dream I remember someone else telling me about, that I myself had! (shared dream?) We were standing in a circle, holding hands, as this destruction around us was happening. They described precise events in the dream, that happened in mine. This has convinced me even more there is something significant to these dreams.

      The trick for me has been in trying to get something consistent out of the dreams to know what is reliable and real, and what it means.

      I dont know about UFOS. Or what any of that is. But I did find a interesting theory here and there about all this. And I'm trying to figure it all out. I'm making some progress but its slow. I need more time. I think its a good idea to record these dreams from now on. Instead on relying on myself to always remember the significant ones. Recording them here may give others more perspective over time aswel when I decide to refer to them. So people will not just think I am making them up and have a history of posts to refer to.

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      Yeah, I definitely think we have something with these dreams. Ive been able to go lucid as I've said before but I know something is different. I feel like its a story being told not of me and felt compelled to see it through to completion. I forgot to mention amidst the first post about the two moons but in one or more of the times I had the dream, the second moon suddenly appears but before that some weird event in the sky occurs and everyone is thrown to their feet and then compelled to look up at the sky and see the second moon.

      Ive seriously thought about getting a tattoo of two half moons on each of my forearms that when put together makes two full moons or the long sought third-eye. Im getting my friend to design it now. Im obsessed with the moon after having those dreams constantly and actually feel the moon when its full as I've said before.

      heres the design (not finished)...


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      And SolSkye, just to give you more insight this is part of my understanding about it.

      During the evolution of a planet, such as this one. Earth is slightly Unique due to a number of factors, one being that other people have come down to incarnate on earth to help and other things.

      but in general, there is 2 races that end up fighting for domination. A serpent Race and A human Race.

      90% of the time humans will win because they are more spiritually sensitive than the serpent race, while they have more supernatural powers. (just the structure of the dna bodies and how they are tuned)

      What the serpents try to do is eliminate the human race and dominate over them. Which for the early part of the evolution they do dominate them. And in rare cases eliminate them. We came close when hitler was coming to power. If hitler one, the eventual outcome would be the elimination of the human race, not just the jews, and establishment of the serpent race. They were using hitler to achieve these goals which not even he was entirely aware of.

      When the humans reach a certain point. There is a great struggle between the serpent race and human race. Because it is difficult to control humans when they begin to understand. So they more or less fight a war with them. Most of the time humans will end up winning. This is only one aspect of the spiritual evolution process in the universe. And its happened to many other planets.

      now this is only part of what I understand which I thought I might mention here Because I am still trying to figure it out myself. Just something to think about.

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      have you had dreams of the serperts? where have you gotten this information?


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      Well I have many spiritual teachers, and I observe closely mythology and things which help me to put together a picture. I use my dreams alot to contact 'higher' knowledge or entitys to sort of "channel information"

      I am not perfect at it. But I know I am making progress in this. And I can "feel" whats true.
      When I unify myself more correctly, I believe it is possible to get information directly. And I will no longer rely simply on dreams. And sooner or later I will finally be abe to conquer matter and death completely through this initiation. And understand the will.
      As we all eventually will.

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      wasn't doubting just curious if you had a link of anything

      so you channel the information? how does one go about starting something like that? I downloaded something vague about channeling your ET self but that didnt work at all.


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      2012

      something interesting to note is that the mayan calendar ends in may 2012.

      i haven't seen the two moons, but ive had many dreams about huge tidal waves. I also had a dream in the 4th dimesion once where i looked out of the window (in a room made of hypercubes) and saw thousands of airplanes falling out of the sky slowly like comets and crashing into the sea.

      i've heard that there is a "quickening" happening right now: more natural disasters, more people having mystical experiences and kundalini awakenings. a bigger gap is starting to form between stubborn materialists and the spiritually aware.

      i expect sometihng to happen within the next few years-its happening everyday. but i think the world still has a long way to go in its longterm evolution.
      your mind is a chasm of light

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      so you channel the information? how does one go about starting something like that? I downloaded something vague about channeling your ET self but that didnt work at all.[/b]

      lol.

      I dont think its like a set of instructions, like out of a cookbook. Then you channel information. Its alot more blurred and sort of an experience thing. So i'm not suprised you had little success with a website telling you how to do it.

      But Honestly if you really wanted to its a long long journey. Times time an effort. And it takes a while to get even any success in this area. You have to study hard and not just in the physical way like you did in school. But I see you already have made progress, hence some of your dreams. Which sensitivity came about i suggest from other past lives aquiring it. So you are not starting from scratch, but continuing on. Channeling any info about anything is an effect as well as part of the goal. But not part of everything u are trying to achieve, Atleast not for me personally.

      Goldenarrows your on the ball there, and more aware than most of whats going on. So that is impressive.

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      Well apparently I have written poems and such since I was kid about UFO's and the end of man so I think Ive had some sort of message being recieved since I was a kid. Heres a story my friend sent me of mine that he thought I would be interested in that he found in our 3rd grade literary book which every student in the school had to submit a story in.

      The title aptly named.. 'When Monsters took over the Earth'

      Once there was a boy who was playing outside when all of a sudden leaves started turning black! He was too scared so he went inside and looked out the window. Flowers were biting trees and houses were melting. The sky was red! A spaceship landed and everything was quiet for a second and then the monsters disappeared and were never seen again.



      After reading that again, I felt compelled to respond to my own writing, which I hadn't read since I wrote it some 15years ago, and recently wrote...

      Flowers biting trees,

      flowing in the breeze,

      life is at ease,

      killing to apease.

      Holding all the keys,

      chilling in the seas,

      waiting for the freeze,

      killing the disease.

      Withstanding the seige,

      dropping to your knees,

      following new creeds,

      planting the seeds.


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      Once there was a boy who was playing outside when all of a sudden leaves started turning black! He was too scared so he went inside and looked out the window. Flowers were biting trees and houses were melting. The sky was red! A spaceship landed and everything was quiet for a second and then the monsters disappeared and were never seen again.[/b]
      That is incredibly deep and symbolic for someone so young. Expecially "flowers biting trees"

      When we are kids I think we are more easily "in touch" or "with it".In that way.
      Overall pretty good artistic piece of writing hope your teacher gave you 5 stars insteading of condeming it. I never wrote stuff like that when I was a kid. Excellent.

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      Well thanks, that means alot
      I, myself was also surprised that I wrote that since I dont remember it at all, although the image of the flowers biting trees did come back to me upon reading it. I also apparently submitted it with a picture of the earth next to a spaceship which he also sent me.

      (if you cant see it I can PM you the bigger versions link but its kind of blurry anyway)

      In regards to the channeling thing do you have any tips or suggestions of ways to go about that? As you can see under my name I dont have problems with Lucid Dreaming but I am always looking to broaden my range of abilities and ultimately the search for the truth.

      Sidenote on those tattoo design pictures (it ties into the signature)


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