Do you believe in an aura?

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-06-2006 07:54 PM

Just wanted to see if all of you believed in it commonly or you just think some people are just messing with your heads.

I my self just don't believe in them, maybe it's to complex to understand the philosphy and critical thinking behind it.

**Patrick** · 03-06-2006 09:16 PM

I think it's highly probable; the energy given off by your conscious existence which only people with ESP can sense.

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-06-2006 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Pensive Patrick
I think it's highly probable; the energy given off by your conscious existence which only people with ESP can sense.

They say that you can learn to see it, I've tried the exercises they just make you do a thing called double vision were you try to see out both eyes at the same time, it works too, but I think I did that in boyscouts

you kinda get good at it after awhile

http://www.thiaoouba.com/aura_eye_exercise.htm

**Burns** · 03-06-2006 11:09 PM

How do the aura pictures work? My mom had one done at a psychic fair one time and I didn't know if it was real or not.

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-07-2006 01:51 AM

Originally posted by burns91
How do the aura pictures work? My mom had one done at a psychic fair one time and I didn't know if it was real or not.

I heard about that on t.v. once, I think they strap you to a bunch of magnets, I also heard something about that when I was looking at old posts that had to do with aura's earlier today. They could also just paint what they see, some scientist believe long ago all people could see aura's, go to the first page of that link I put in on my last post.

I remember the t.v. show it actualy showed what it would be like to be realy good at seeing them, everything was all blury with light of diffrent colors even the objects.

**sephiroth clock** · 03-07-2006 03:08 AM

yes, I believe in them because I have to friends that have great integrity that I trust very much, who say they can see and sense auras.

**FluBB** · 03-07-2006 03:35 AM

so what the deuce exactly is an auroa or what ev.

FluBB

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-07-2006 10:58 PM

Aura's are just a bunch of light reflecting off a person's body that is sopposed to tell what they are currently feeling, I did those exercises on the site dayly, I hope they don't hurt my eyes or something, becouse I don't want to go blind

, ofcourse it's just using your right and left brain together so I guess it's alright.

**Distant Clone** · 03-08-2006 04:20 AM

Originally posted by LucidDreamGod
Auras are just a bunch of light reflecting off a person's body

Actually no, an aura is a non-physical body. It vibrates, just like the physical body, and therefore also has a wavelength. It can be seen, but higher on the color spectrum, which should be ultraviolet not infrared. It radiates from a subtle body, instead of reflects from the physical body.

I voted I know so, and I have seen several different effects. On two people, I have seen a shimmering glow about two inches away from their heads. In the mirror, and right out in the open, I have seen colorless motion, like a waterfall hitting a lake below. Sometimes, I can look down at myself, in bed or elsewhere, and see a mainly yellow or green aura, I am assuming it's mine.

**wasup** · 03-08-2006 05:05 AM

You must agree that it is silly to believe anything you believe that you see around a person is an "aura" without thinking of alternatives. It's like seeing an eclipse and thinking "GOD HAS TAKEN THE SUN AWAY FROM US... WE WILL ALL DIE." On the other hand... can't it just be the moon?

What I'm getting at is, for example, it can be other things. For example, it can be an afterimage. Pretty self explanatory. Also, I've read when you do a specific thing (I'll have to find that), you can "see" your eye and like see the stem, ect. This can be what you are "seeing." And lastly... this is just a theory of mine, but possibly heat radiating off of people. This effect might be too minute to be percieved, but if not then it could be part of this. Combinations of these could also make you believe you are seeing an "aura." I'm sure there are other things as well.

Edit: Hahaha... wow. I just checked out that aura page http://www.thiaoouba.com/aura_eye_exercise.htm ... those aren't "auras" for christsake, it's just after image. The two picture "concentration" exercises are nothing but viewing after images (with the first one your eye wobbles a bit and you see the after image around the figures... notice it says it "intensifies" when you look at it for more time... this is not a property of "auras..." rather, after images) and just focusing your eyes at different levels. I think my favorite part was the "auric pairs." I would be more convinced if someone saw a red aura around a green thing, for example (I'm sure I'll hear someone pipe up about this), but speaking about seeing complementary colors when looking at after images is completely natural... not "auras."

Don't be fooled... "Several people reported that wearing the Chakra Shirt[link on that] significantly enhances such concentration, and my personal experience confirms this. " That's like "buy our famous godly enhanced holy water to prepare for the apocolypse!" Also, don't be fooled by the pseudo-science of this. They mention a lot of complete BS that sounds like science ("You only have a second to concentrate on their aura until the photosensitive cells in your eyes stop vibrating, so take careful note" - paraphrased)... it can be quite convincing to the impressionable, unsuspecting minds.

Everything about auras is explained by science, but they refer to it as something spiritual/paranormal. It's one thing to claim to be able to do something that science says is impossible, but to do something completely possible and say it's paranormal is silly.

**Krrish** · 03-08-2006 05:24 AM

I see auras around some peoples. I think that it is a defect of my eyes. But it is amazing that it differs for different peoples.

Also if there is any defect in your eye lens, it will pass infrared rays to the retina also. Filtering the wrong frequency. I think this is what happening to my eyes.

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-08-2006 11:39 PM

Originally posted by ataraxis
You must agree that it is silly to believe anything you believe that you see around a person is an "aura" without thinking of alternatives. It's like seeing an eclipse and thinking "GOD HAS TAKEN THE SUN AWAY FROM US... WE WILL ALL DIE." On the other hand... can't it just be the moon?

What I'm getting at is, for example, it can be other things. For example, it can be an afterimage. Pretty self explanatory. Also, I've read when you do a specific thing (I'll have to find that), you can "see" your eye and like see the stem, ect. This can be what you are "seeing." And lastly... this is just a theory of mine, but possibly heat radiating off of people. This effect might be too minute to be percieved, but if not then it could be part of this. Combinations of these could also make you believe you are seeing an "aura." I'm sure there are other things as well.

Edit: Hahaha... wow. I just checked out that aura page http://www.thiaoouba.com/aura_eye_exercise.htm ... those aren't "auras" for christsake, it's just after image. The two picture "concentration" exercises are nothing but viewing after images (with the first one your eye wobbles a bit and you see the after image around the figures... notice it says it "intensifies" when you look at it for more time... this is not a property of "auras..." rather, after images) and just focusing your eyes at different levels. I think my favorite part was the "auric pairs." I would be more convinced if someone saw a red aura around a green thing, for example (I'm sure I'll hear someone pipe up about this), but speaking about seeing complementary colors when looking at after images is completely natural... not "auras."

Don't be fooled... "Several people reported that wearing the Chakra Shirt[link on that] significantly enhances such concentration, and my personal experience confirms this. " That's like "buy our famous godly enhanced holy water to prepare for the apocolypse!" Also, don't be fooled by the pseudo-science of this. They mention a lot of complete BS that sounds like science ("You only have a second to concentrate on their aura until the photosensitive cells in your eyes stop vibrating, so take careful note" - paraphrased)... it can be quite convincing to the impressionable, unsuspecting minds.

Everything about auras is explained by science, but they refer to it as something spiritual/paranormal. It's one thing to claim to be able to do something that science says is impossible, but to do something completely possible and say it's paranormal is silly.

There probably not real anyway, but who knows, oh and I like your critical thinking tell me your views on the astral body, which I'm not believing in, at the moment but Gothlark said he had many OBE's don't know why he would lie

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Also check out this book from that same site http://www.thiaoouba.com/faq.htm very hard to believe

(by that I mean I don't believe

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**Krrish** · 03-09-2006 02:42 AM

Originally posted by LucidDreamGod

There probably not real anyway, but who knows, oh and I like your critical thinking tell me your views on the astral body, which I'm not believing in, at the moment but Gothlark said he had many OBE's don't know why he would lie ,

I think OBEs are WILD.

**wombing** · 03-09-2006 07:15 AM

i've seen an 'aura' once, quite distinctly around my friend. at the time i wasn't trying to, and it suprised me.

i am unsure what to make of it, as i often strongly sense people's 'vibrations', and seeing his 'aura' felt similar, but more intense.

i certainly agree that many supposedly 'auric visions' are nothing more than illusions of the eyes..who knows..i wouldn't rule out genuine aura apprehension just yet..

**wasup** · 03-09-2006 08:13 AM

Okay... people don't "lie" about what they experience or see, luciddreamgod. They only misinterpret it. They believe something is something other than it is. For example... the only way I've heard people describe how they knew they were having an OOBE was a strange sensation they had in their dream. Like they "just felt it" was an OOBE. Well ambiguous intuition is not a very good way to judge if something is real or not. Like if someone sees there room just as it is, then they might think it is an OOBE. But all that stuff can happen in a dream.

And as korothism said... OOBE's are similar to WILD. Some people think they are having an OOBE because of how they enter the dream. Well... the described way of how people enter an OOBE is terribly similar to entering a WILD. Considering the spontaneity of the mind, it is likely that the way you enter a dream is like entering an OOBE is described... so it is easy for people to become convinced.

**Leo Volont** · 03-09-2006 12:07 PM

Originally posted by LucidDreamGod
Just wanted to see if all of you believed in it commonly or you just think some people are just messing with your heads.

I my self just don't believe in them, maybe it's to complex to understand the philosphy and critical thinking behind it.

The greatest disappointment I have in Astral Projections' new young Guru is that he went so far to sell out that he included a chapter in his book on 'auras' where he just teaches people that the eye's residual negative images are authentic 'auras'. Yes, the New Age community has been pushing this teaching for decades now -- to wow ignorant little old ladies too stupid to know what they are being told. So when Robert Bruce writes to this younger and ostensibly better educated audiance with the same quasi-intellectual slight of hand and smoking mirrors, why, its an insult.

Or perhaps the problem is that he is actually quite stupid and never added it up that a retinal residual negative cannot actually be a positive image of any substantially positive existence. One can differentiate between a Shadow and the Thing that casts the Shadow. the shape is there but absolutely no substance. So the Aura that is only a retinal residual negative is just as an empty a thing as a Shadow. But Robert Bruce hasn't been able to figure that out.

**Leo Volont** · 03-09-2006 12:38 PM

Now, there are some people who can see 'auras' but it is not anything they learned in a class, or can be taught in a class.

I knew an old lady, a healer who practiced Jin Shin Jitsu. She was very good at diagnosising illness even if she was not so splendid at healing it. She would look at somebody and then fill in a trace of their body with various colors that would apparently superimpose on her perception of their body image. These were not negative retinal images, but something a layer down in her perceptual processes was providing information into her visual field.

it is a shame she tried so hard to be a healer. If only she had specialized in what she did best -- just diagnosing the problems. Often people feel like crap but have no idea of what is really wrong with themselves, and the doctors can run a few tests, but are often puzzled as well. Old Lisa only had to look at you to know what was wrong.

She did have a few good tricks though. Once she was cooking dinner, but was distracted by a patient, an epileptic. When I arrived, she said "Zer Gut" (she was German) and told me that if the young boy goes into a seizure, to grab him firmly by the big toes and squeeze down like clamps... that this would stop the flow of energy running into that particular nervous ganglia. Well, Old Lisa was not out of the treatment room and back in her kitchen for 10 seconds and that kid goes into a grand maul seizure -- flipping around like a huge trout reeled into the boat. I jumped on the legs and followed them down to the big toes and clamped down. I thought that just like in so many other cases, the wonderfully theoretical treatment would be frustrated by the infinite resourses of illness, but to my surprise, it really did seem like I had just cut off the nervous energy feeding into the seizure, and the kid became still... exhausted, but still.

But Old Lisa had her dissappointments. To see an illness is not the same as being able to cure an illness -- even if you see it at the most basic supernatural and subtle level. Those diseases have a life of their own.

**Redeyedwolfking** · 03-10-2006 02:53 AM

i know that aura's exist because i saw them i dono what properties they have but i can see them especially around trees.

**FluBB** · 03-10-2006 04:31 AM

so i went to that site... and so are auras what mood your in or what kind of a person you are, because that thing about the halo and stuff... i dunno about that guys.

FluBB

**Lucius** · 03-10-2006 11:08 AM

If there is such a thing as auras.. which I suspect there is for personal reasons but I might as well be wrong:

Then, I don't you should go by that site for colors and interpretations.. it's hard to interpret the aura as not only the color but also the place of the color, the shade of the color and how vibrant it is aswell as the 'shape' of the aura will make a difference.. big difference

Also, there are many different interpretations on colors, though they do have lots in common. But this site claims that white is a design of disease etc, while others claim it's a spiritual color.. in a way this makes sense because white is all colors/rainbow colored.

But if you want to learn how to interpret the aura you'd probably have to be very good at it, and I really don't think it's as easy as some people make it seem.. and then, you'd have to have a lot of experience figuring out the meaning of it all. Feeling is probably important.

However, about the after images.. don't be tricked by that. I think a lot of people see after images and then conclude it's the aura. I can see after images just staring at it for a small amount of seconds so my eyes must be messed up XD Try staring at an object for a while until the image appears, then after a while look at the wall you'll see the afterimage still projected on the wall. That's one way to check I suppose.

I don't think an aura leaves such an image on your eye, and also auras move/swirl around.

**Gwendolyn** · 03-10-2006 04:46 PM

I think the concept of an aura is pretty plausable. I mean, every living thing gives off enery. I am not sure how you could define it as negative or positive, but then agian, I have never been able to see an aura myself. Carlos Casteneda's books define an aura as a sort of egg shaped ball of energy that has an assembalage point (which defines what life form you are). He also infers in his writings that you can change the form of your awareness by moving that 'assembalage point", and that you can even change what type of life form you are. I don't necessarily believe all of that stuff, but I thought it might be interesting to bring up.

**walterallen1** · 03-13-2006 08:17 AM

Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exsist. There are many things all around us that we can't see yet we know they are there. Light waves, air, radiation, electricity.
In fact I am sure that there are many things that exsist along with us that we can't see or sense that probably can't see or sense us. I think we just haven't learned to.

Here's a real example. My last vacation was at the beach on the Gulf coast of Florida. My niece and nephew collect sharks teeth. They have hundreds. I wanted to find some and I looked for hours and found nothing. These kids come out and with a minute I heard "found one, found one," this went on for thirty minutes or more. They found several and it's not like these things are all tiny, most are quite big 10-15 mm in length on average. Now my point is this I couldn't find them because I hadn't learn to see them yet.

But be careful once you learn to see what is normally not seen, you can never be able to not see again, it would be like trying to unlearn how to tie your shoes. And if there are things that coexsist with us and you become aware of them I'm sure they become aware of you as well.

Sometimes ignorence is bliss.

**Burns** · 03-13-2006 09:48 PM

Originally posted by walterallen1
Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exsist. There are many things all around us that we can't see yet we know they are there. Light waves, air, radiation, electricity. *
In fact I am sure that there are many things that exsist along with us that we can't see or sense that probably can't see or sense us. I think we just haven't learned to.

Well said -I agree with this statement. Personally, I tend to only believe things if there is hard, tangible evidence at hand (since I work in the sciences), but I know that I'm being short-sighted. Just because I can't see it, or haven't seen it yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's hard for some people (including myself) to put faith in things that aren't proven to be true, but it's important to keep an open mind.

**Chell** · 03-14-2006 12:02 AM

Originally posted by ataraxis
Okay... people don't "lie" about what they experience or see, luciddreamgod. *They only misinterpret it. *They believe something is something other than it is. *For example... the only way I've heard people describe how they knew they were having an OOBE was a strange sensation they had in their dream. *Like they "just felt it" was an OOBE. *Well ambiguous intuition is not a very good way to judge if something is real or not. *Like if someone sees there room just as it is, then they might think it is an OOBE. *But all that stuff can happen in a dream.

And as korothism said... OOBE's are similar to WILD. *Some people think they are having an OOBE because of how they enter the dream. *Well... the described way of how people enter an OOBE is terribly similar to entering a WILD. *Considering the spontaneity of the mind, it is likely that the way you enter a dream is like entering an OOBE is described... so it is easy for people to become convinced.

Do you actually believe in anything? Just because you have had no experience of something and therefore denying it, is just as silly as believing in everything you hear about. I hate that 'I know more than you can ever do' tone.

**wasup** · 03-15-2006 08:06 PM

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Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exsist. There are many things all around us that we can't see yet we know they are there. Light waves, air, radiation, electricity.
In fact I am sure that there are many things that exsist along with us that we can't see or sense that probably can't see or sense us. I think we just haven't learned to.
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What a classic argument... but we can percieve these thing as well as see the effects of them and test them... Light you can see, and you can know that light waves exist due to all of the *light* around. One can see the effects of air, and you can test electricity and radiation. True, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but when there's no evidence of it... no tests supporting it... well, the chances are slim.

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Do you actually believe in anything? Just because you have had no experience of something and therefore denying it, is just as silly as believing in everything you hear about. I hate that 'I know more than you can ever do' tone.

I do believe in many things, in fact! But I do not accept things based on faith solely. And "having no experience and therefore denying it" can indeed be "as silly as believing everything you hear." But I did not deny it based on my own experiences or lack thereof, but by offering scientific reasons why a person might have percieved what they say they have. But I do not have to prove YOU wrong... the burden of truth is on you. Ya can't just say "I bend spoons with my ki. Prove telekinesis wrong if I did THAT!" If you make such a claim, the burden of truth is on you.