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      ITC - do you belive in it?

      ITC (stands for Instrumental Trans-Communicaion) is effect of appearing faces, objects in video frames. Mostly, these can be found in force feedback videoloop (when you point camera to tv, and tv shows what shows camera). For example, below pictures are taken from video I made using monitor, VCR, and tv-tuner. I plugged camera to tv-tuner, made picture on screen, and recorded. If you want original video, contact with me via MSN, or anything else.

      There is no proove if this phenomena exists. Many people think, objects on images are from other world. Its for you to decide, if it is fact or fiction. Nevertheless, here are pictures (I included what I saw in them) plus marked images (thanks to my friend):

      Frame 56 (Ape (orang-utan or so) and "Ghost"):


      Frame 58 (Same ape, slightly moved):


      Frame 93 (Screaming person):


      Frame 95 (Theater girl (doll?)):


      Frame 97 (Evil eyes (concidence I think)):


      Frame 172 (Alien face (its rotated 90*, top-right corner)):


      Frame 174 (Skull (center)):


      Frame 173 (tiny skull upper skulls place):


      Frame 238 ("Z", found in static):


      Frame 378 (Big cat's face, some other face, this one I like best):


      Frame 380 (Flying ufo, some frames, thats some compression artefact):


      Frame 485 (Person showing... um... middle finger ):


      Frame 522 (Dog (hard to see)):



      Notice, many of faces are tilted ~90 degrees.
      What is your opinion about it?

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      I don't really know too much about the topic, but I don't see what you are seeing. I think it just looks like shapes. It all looks kind of bogus. Not sure though?

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      Well, I also dont really belive in other worlds theory, but when such pictures are done with tv (not monitor) they can be really nice (beautiful sometimes). On tv, I mostly get nice colored clouds. No pictures of that yet.

      Edit: I found one picture, it is bad, but shows general pattern:

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      The whole concept sounds like B.S to me....There isn't much evidence to support it's existance, and frankly, all of the thing you pointed out were very conincedental and could possibly be found in any television moniter at any time. That's just my take.
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      Yes, I also think most of such things are concidental, but it might be interesting to search such things in pictures. Still, if this is concidence, then it's pretty weird concidence.

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      Looking into infinity can be really fun. But sometimes you see what you want to see, if you know what I mean.

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      Have you ever stood between to mirrors to get the "hall of mirrors" effect? It's just a relfective feedback. What you're doing is recording the recursive feedback from the video/recorder loop. Thanks to a slight delay, the picture on the TV is never exactly the same as what's being recorded by the camera. You can get great effects by tilting the camera at an angle instead of shooting level. It's like a live action technicolor spirograph; I do it with my webcam sometimes. As far as seeing things in it, I'd say it's no different from inkblots, or cuddly things in the clouds, or corn chips shaped like Franklin Delano Rosevelt, or burnt toast that looks like the Virgin Mary or, well, you get the idea.

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      Re: ITC - do you belive in it?

      Originally posted by Black Phoenix
      ITC (stands for Instrumental Trans-Communicaion) is effect of appearing faces, objects in video frames. Mostly, these can be found in force feedback videoloop (when you point camera to tv, and tv shows what shows camera). For example, below pictures are taken from video I made using monitor, VCR, and tv-tuner. I plugged camera to tv-tuner, made picture on screen, and recorded. If you want original video, contact with me via MSN, or anything else.

      There is no proove if this phenomena exists. Many people think, objects on images are from other world. Its for you to decide, if it is fact or fiction. Nevertheless, here are pictures (I included what I saw in them) plus marked images (thanks to my friend):

      Frame 56 (Ape (orang-utan or so) and "Ghost"):


      Hey I actually like it! It's mine!
      Although I really think that it is probably HI.

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      Re: ITC - do you belive in it?

      Originally posted by nesgirl119


      Hey I actually like it! It's mine!
      Although I really think that it is probably HI.
      nes, this wasn't a thread about dreams, silly. I am not sure I understand what you mean by this.
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      Re: ITC - do you belive in it?

      Originally posted by Gwendolyn


      nes, this wasn't a thread about dreams, silly. I am not sure I understand what you mean by this.
      Well, it really does look like HI.
      And that place that is in the background looks familiar (refuses to say why, so as not to confuse newbies!)

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      Re: ITC - do you belive in it?

      Originally posted by nesgirl119


      Well, it really does look like HI.
      And that place that is in the background looks familiar (refuses to say why, so as not to confuse newbies!)
      Oh, yeah. It kind of does. I just misunderstood what you said. Lol. Sorry.
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      Re: ITC - do you belive in it?

      Originally posted by Gwendolyn


      Oh, yeah. It kind of does. I just misunderstood what you said. Lol. Sorry.
      No prob!
      I was just after it because the scenery looks too familiar to the dream I had w/Cody where we flew across somewhere far away in pretty white robes (and sashes), and I was pointing at something.

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